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Dyson Videos/Articles - for Dyson HATERS only (Read 4525 times)
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Re: Dyson Videos/Articles - for Dyson HATERS only
Reply #170 - 07/10/07 at 11:49pm
 
Quote from RAT on 07/10/07 at 11:00pm:
One reason that other companies can sell their vacuums so much cheaper than Dyson is that they know that they will have a steady income stream from the sale of filters, bags, and belts.  

Dyson's owners will pay in larger chunks - initial cost, spare filters, possible clutch assembly failures, etc.  

   
Your first sentence seems right out of a dyson playbook.  However, Dyson spare filters are not necessary and if one buys a dyson today, that has a clutch, that clutch is warranty covered at no customer expense for 5 years.
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Reply #171 - 07/11/07 at 8:37am
 
Hello JimB:
 
If dyson spare filters are not needed, why do dyson and bootleggers sell them?
 
If dysons were purchased between April 2002 and August 2006 (about a 4.5 YEARS dyson sales timeframe), are the clutches also covered for 5 years?   Or just the dysons sold between Sept 2006 and currently: about a 10 MONTH dyson sales period.  Wink  
 
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Reply #172 - 07/11/07 at 9:37pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 07/11/07 at 8:37am:
Hello JimB:

If dyson spare filters are not needed, why do dyson and bootleggers sell them?

If dysons were purchased between April 2002 and August 2006 (about a 4.5 YEARS dyson sales timeframe), are the clutches also covered for 5 years?   Or just the dysons sold between Sept 2006 and currently: about a 10 MONTH dyson sales period.  Wink  

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The Dyson filters will be made available for the incidences where the owner destroys the filter by melting it in the tumble drier, ripping it in the washer, and 1001 other scenarios. I suppose there will also be those folk (admittedly, a minority) who will never wash the filter, but insist on buying a new one when required. Or the ones who accidentally threw away the filter because they neglected to read the instructions.
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Reply #173 - 07/11/07 at 10:25pm
 
Quote from Trilobite on 07/11/07 at 9:37pm:
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 07/11/07 at 8:37am:
Hello JimB:

If dyson spare filters are not needed, why do dyson and bootleggers sell them?

If dysons were purchased between April 2002 and August 2006 (about a 4.5 YEARS dyson sales timeframe), are the clutches also covered for 5 years?   Or just the dysons sold between Sept 2006 and currently: about a 10 MONTH dyson sales period.  Wink  

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The Dyson filters will be made available for the incidences where the owner destroys the filter by melting it in the tumble drier, ripping it in the washer, and 1001 other scenarios. I suppose there will also be those folk (admittedly, a minority) who will never wash the filter, but insist on buying a new one when required. Or the ones who accidentally threw away the filter because they neglected to read the instructions.

 
Or because some indy who hates Dyson feeds the consumer BS to sell filters.
 
BTW,  I recently went to Sears to buy a new Bissell Healthy Home.  The Sears salesman told me numerous times that Dyson was the best vacuum that Sears sells.  I guess he has never talked to one of the regulars on the forum so he has an uncluttered mind.
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Reply #174 - 07/11/07 at 10:27pm
 
In over 50 years in the vacuum industry, I've never discovered a vacuum filter that lasts a "lifetime" without replacement.  "Lifetime" filter is a non sequitur.  
 
With time, usage, wear and tear, carbon brush motor dusts, washing and drying, filters gradually deteriorate, shrink and degrade.  Hence losing effectiveness.    
 
Filter replacements are a necessary and needed maintenance procedure for ALL VACUUMS if you want to keep the vacuum operating at peak performance.
 
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Reply #175 - 07/11/07 at 10:39pm
 
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The Sears salesman told me numerous times that Dyson was the best vacuum that Sears sells.  I guess he has never talked to one of the regulars on the forum so he has an uncluttered mind.

 
Hello HARDSELL:
 
I may have shared this with you by PM last year so forgive me if I'm repeating myself again on the Forum.  When I first visited the local SEARS store here in North Las Vegas I was told the same by the SEARS vacuum salesman.  The very same 16 year veteran who now tells me the DC18 dyson-lite tips over at least once a day.  He dislikes it and the DC21.  
 
Here are some other "myths" that I frequently hear about and from dyson retailers:  
 
It's made in the UK.  Ask 10 retailers, and inevitably 9 will say the UK.  One will say I don't know.
 
Dyson is rated number one by Consumer Reports.
 
Dyson never needs maintenance and/or repairs.  It will cost you nothing to use over its lifetime.
 
Dyson NEVER loses suction and the filters never clog.
 
It's the only vacuum with a 5 year warranty.  All other vacuums have only a one year warranty.
 
If the dyson needs repair under warranty, you can take it to any independent vacuum store and have it done.  
 
All these statements as you know are untrue.  What's sad is, they are told these falsehoods by the dyson reps.  I've been told that on many occasions.
 
When I correct the seller on each and every point, in some cases by showing them proof, the sales "puffing" subsides and the real truth comes out.    
 
I may have mentioned at the time that some have even asked me if I am from their Corporate Office when I correct their sales puffing.  
 
It's sales puffing.  That's all it is.  Inflating the product to sell it by any means possible.  Sellers have been doing this since the days of the travelling circuses with witch doctors selling wonder tonics and potions in a jar.  
 
Come on now HS, you're smarter than believing what a know nothing sales person tells you about a product at a big box retailer.  Did I mention that some of the High School young men I teach are vacuum sales people at the local big box retailers?  Do you think they know and care about vacuums?  They're lucky if they can assemble them with the directions and demo correctly to a potential customer.  Whose probably a woman [your favorite savvy buyer of vehicles].
 
Why?  Most consumers don't know any better.  They accept the words of the sellers as true and accurate.  Until someone like you or me comes along and rattles their cages and asks for proof.  Better still who shows them the proof which more than likely contradicts them.
 
So tell us, why did you buy the BISSELL Healthy Home and not a dyson?  Didn't the salesman tell you that dysons are the best vacuum SEARS sells?   Wink
 
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Reply #176 - 07/11/07 at 10:54pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 07/11/07 at 10:39pm:
Quote from HARDSELL on 07/11/07 at 10:25pm:


The Sears salesman told me numerous times that Dyson was the best vacuum that Sears sells.  I guess he has never talked to one of the regulars on the forum so he has an uncluttered mind.


Hello HARDSELL:

I may have shared this with you by PM last year so forgive me if I'm repeating myself again on the Forum.  When I first visited the local SEARS store here in North Las Vegas I was told the same by the SEARS vacuum salesman.  The very same 16 year veteran who now tells me the DC18 dyson-lite tips over at least once a day.  He dislikes it and the DC21.  

Here are some other "myths" that I frequently hear about and from dyson retailers:  

It's made in the UK.  Ask 10 retailers, and inevitably 9 will say the UK.  One will say I don't know.

Dyson is rated number one by Consumer Reports.

Dyson never needs maintenance and/or repairs.  It will cost you nothing to use over its lifetime.

Dyson NEVER loses suction and the filters never clog.

It's the only vacuum with a 5 year warranty.  All other vacuums have only a one year warranty.

If the dyson needs repair under warranty, you can take it to any independent vacuum store and have it done.  

All these statements as you know are untrue.  

When I correct the seller on each and every point, in some cases by showing them proof, the sales "puffing" subsides and the real truth comes out.  

I may have mentioned at the time that some have even asked me if I am from their Corporate Office when I correct their sales puffing.  

It's sales puffing.  That's all it is.  Inflating the product to sell it by any means possible.  Sellers have been doing this since the days of the travelling circuses with wonder tonics and potions.  Come on, your smarting than believing what a sales associate tells you at a big box retailer.

Why?  Most consumers don't know any better.  They accept the words of the seller as true and accurate.  Until someone like me comes along and rattles their cages and asks for proof.  Better still shows them the proof which contradicts them.

Carmine D.

 
The big box salesman who agreed with you was brilliant.  The one who talked to me was a moron because he liked Dyson.  Sounds like all three of you are puffing.  
 
I am also smart enough to know the BS fro fact that is posted so frequently.
 
I have been wondering how good the suction is with the hose and tools on your Oreck.
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Reply #177 - 07/11/07 at 11:05pm
 
Quote from HARDSELL on 07/11/07 at 10:54pm:



I have been wondering how good the suction is with the hose and tools on your Oreck.

 
Come on HARDSELL:
 
You know ORECK doesn't have tools.  And that's why I like it.  I'm not a tool guy when it comes to vacuums.  I prefer to use a vacuum for the floors and rugs and do the above the floor cleaning by hand.  I told you that already.  BTW, I replaced the paper bag in my ORECK today.  I started using it on/around April 20 and have every day since.  And today, July 11, I put a new paper bag in.  The old bag was filled beyond the full line, almost to the top and all around the bag opening.  No dust inside the outer bag jacket.  No odor from the exhaust.  No dust cloud.  Took 10 seconds to change.  I love it and highly recommend them to others all the time.  Sales puffing.  No.  I don't sell ORECK's.  I just buy and use one and give ORECKS for gifts to family and friends.  Who like them too.
 
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