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Carmine_Difazio Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5559	Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters Reply #30 - 04/13/06 at 6:30am Quote from Bruce on 04/12/06 at 6:16pm: Well of course she does! It's the brand you sell Smart lady! Lucky man! Carmine D.
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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #31 - 04/13/06 at 6:44am

Quote from Mike_W. on 04/13/06 at 4:45am:

There is no BEST or PERFECT vacuum cleaner

I would say that there are better and best vacuums (or to use your word "perfect") for particular persons and their needs and likes. When a vacuum professional matches that vacuum with the person, or the person is fortunate enough to select that vacuum on his/her own, it will be the best and perfect vacuum for them (at least for the time).

With time and changes in events and circumstances, the best and perfect vacuum may change. Frequently the staunch Kirby, Lux, and Rainbow users after decades (and even generations) will decide another brand like the Oreck is the best (it's lighter and easier to use more frequently which is an important factor with growing older). Or as we age we just may stop using the Kirby or other family brands as often because of our age and physical ailments associated with getting older.

Hence no BEST and PERFECT vacuum even for the same person/household!

My advice is don't get old.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #32 - 04/13/06 at 6:53am

Getting back to bonelady and this thread, the HOOVER Z's filter is self cleaning and will last the life of the vacuum under normal household use. This is a nice selling feature for vacuum users who are sick and tired of the time, effort, cost and mess with cleaning and replacing vacuum filters. But they may still want the bagless vacuum feature.

Ask any bagless vacuum owner/user what they dislike the most about their vacuum. The most received response will be the hassle with the filters (including the expense). Just as our poster (and other Forum posters). The HOOVER Z solves that problem for the life of the vacuum.

Dyson supporters on the Forum rave about the TWO FILTERS (pre-post motor) on their brand which only have to be cleaned/washed a few times a year. And replaced less frequently over the life of the vacuum. The HOOVER Z eliminates the filter problem of cleaning and replacing for its ONE HEPA filter altogether and does not even get a mention for it. ???

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #33 - 04/13/06 at 1:03pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/13/06 at 6:53am:

Dyson supporters on the Forum rave about the TWO FILTERS (pre-post motor) on their brand which only have to be cleaned/washed a few times a year. And replaced less frequently over the life of the vacuum. The HOOVER Z eliminates the filter problem of cleaning and replacing for its ONE HEPA filter altogether and does not even get a mention for it. ???

Carmine D.

Sorry to pop your bubble Carmine. The Z's pleated filter is NOT going to last the life of the vacuum unless you consider "life" as being less than a few years at best.

ALL pleated filters WILL clog with microscopic particulates regardless of how much reverse air is forced through them or how much additional mechanical agitation is applied to them in combination. Unlike the Dyson filter which is NOT the main filter for separation of debris, the Hoover Z's filter is not permanent. Hoover is deceiving its customers by making false claims of this nature.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #34 - 04/13/06 at 1:24pm

Quote from Bruce on 04/13/06 at 1:03pm:

The Z's pleated filter is NOT going to last the life of the vacuum unless you consider "life" as being less than a few years at best.

ALL pleated filters WILL clog with microscopic particulates regardless of how much reverse air is forced through them or how much additional mechanical agitation is applied to them in combination. ....the Hoover Z's filter is not permanent. Hoover is deceiving its customers by making false claims of this nature.

Likewise Bruce, I'm sorry to rebut your statements but .....

Based on our personal use of the HOOVER Z 400 in my home almost every day and night over the last several weeks, the HEPA filter and self-cleaning feature is working just as HOOVER claims.

THe HOOVER Z is getting a double duty workout. My dear Wife and I are selling this house and moving. We are cleaning, painting, and doing patch up work on walls from the picture, painting and mirror holes and the like that were hanging. I'm sanding, painting and refinishing the walls, woodwork, and floors. We're picking up fine sanding from drywall filler. THe Z is performing marvelously.

I am gifting this HOOVER Z to my married daughter who thinks it's way cool. But not until the end of the month. All the heavy duty cleaning should be done by then.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #35 - 04/13/06 at 6:59pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/13/06 at 1:24pm:

Likewise Bruce, I'm sorry to rebut your statements but .....

Based on our personal use of the HOOVER Z 400 in my home almost every day and night over the last several weeks, the HEPA filter and self-cleaning feature is working just as HOOVER claims.

THe HOOVER Z is getting a double duty workout. My dear Wife and I are selling this house and moving. We are cleaning, painting, and doing patch up work on walls from the picture, painting and mirror holes and the like that were hanging. I'm sanding, painting and refinishing the walls, woodwork, and floors. We're picking up fine sanding from drywall filler. THe Z is performing marvelously.

I am gifting this HOOVER Z to my married daughter who thinks it's way cool. But not until the end of the month. All the heavy duty cleaning should be done by then.

Carmine D.

You are judging the filter life on a few weeks use and say it will last the life of the vacuum.
Others have used Dysons for years with no filter replacements yet a few on the forum claim the Dyson filter is short lived.
Are there any predjudices here? Or is it just jabber by those who do not profit from Dyson?

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #36 - 04/13/06 at 9:01pm

meanwhile, getting back to bonelady;

One vac that is very lightweight, uses bags and is easy to manuever is the SEBO FELIX. This is a german vac running $5-600 which uses a cogged belt for brushroll. It can be used like a large handheld by detaching the powerbrush.

As for the Bissell, yes, sounds like its brushchamber hose could be clogged.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #37 - 04/14/06 at 3:26am

Quote from HARDSELL on 04/13/06 at 6:59pm:

You are judging the filter life on a few weeks use and say it will last the life of the vacuum.
Others have used Dysons for years with no filter replacements yet a few on the forum claim the Dyson filter is short lived.
Are there any predjudices here? Or is it just jabber by those who do not profit from Dyson?

We (my Wife and I) have used the HOOVER Z for over 4 weeks. We have given it a heavy duty household workout. All other bagless vacuums if used like this, including a dyson, would require filter cleanings and/or washings several times during this time period. Not the ZEE. None. Why? Because of the fine powdery nature of the sanding dirt and debris. ZEE filter cleans itself. Dyson and other bagless vacuums with filters require user maintenance, either cleaning and/or replacing. Especially with the kind of usage the ZEE had over the last month.

We also have a long haired English yellow lab. When we used a dyson DC07 for a month in my home for just normal household cleaning, I had to cut off the dog hair wrap around the brushroll at least once a week and more depending on the usage and shedding. Not with the HOOVER Z. No hair wrap at all on the ZEE. Why? THe ZEE has a brush roll with a larger diameter than brush rolls used as the industry standard. Dyson brush roll has a smaller diameter than the industry.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #38 - 04/14/06 at 3:36am

Quote from VacOMatic on 04/13/06 at 9:01pm:

meanwhile, getting back to bonelady;

One vac that is very lightweight, uses bags and is easy to manuever is the SEBO FELIX. This is a german vac running $5-600 which uses a cogged belt for brushroll. It can be used like a large handheld by detaching the powerbrush.

As for the Bissell, yes, sounds like its brushchamber hose could be clogged.

A major drawback of the Felix for normal household use is the lack of attachments for suction cleaning. In this regard its just like the Oreck and Simplicity Freedom Series. If you have above the floor cleaning and carpets, you need a second vacuum to supplement the Felix.

Trilobite opined that the lack of carpet suction is due to poor agitation and/or rug nozzle blockage. Old-timer said the belt was stretched causing the brush roll to slip and lose effectiveness. It's very difficult to diagnose by internet and long distance. Seeing is believing.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #39 - 04/14/06 at 11:40am

Hi Carmine,

The Felix models do come with attachments -- a crevice tool plus a tool for upholstery. One model comes with a bare floor tool that is also an option for the others.

Also the Felix comes offering different cleaning swaths model to model. There's a link below.

http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping.com/sebo-felix-vacuum-cleaners.html#features

Venson

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