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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #80 - 04/30/06 at 9:05pm
 
Quote from vacuuman   on 04/30/06 at 7:17pm:
I did speak for myself on the subject of Dyson warranty repairs.  If anyone would like to read what I had to say, my post is on the last page.

 
I read what you said and I read how Carmine spun it (getting rich on dyson warranty repairs).  My guess IMHO is you must not be a shop owner but perhaps a hourly worker.  The reality of your $1000 in a month number is that of that about $600 to $650 of that is reimbursement for parts and shipping you paid in the front end.  That leaves $350 to $400 for a shop owner and you sound like a larger city location (Denver?).  Remember also if you are an employee your owner is paying your salary and other shop expenses for the period you are working on those machines out of that also.  Even at $400 a month which my experience would say is extremely high that would not be what most would consider "getting rich".  You can make a profit from doing warranty repairs but quite frankly the real money in warranty repairs is the consumer walking in your door that may have not otherwise.  Respect their product and treat them honestly and you could earn repeat business and referrals the real profit in warranty repairs.
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Reply #81 - 05/01/06 at 6:40am
 
Quote from JimB   on 04/30/06 at 9:05pm:


I read what you said and I read how Carmine spun it (getting rich on dyson warranty repairs).  My guess IMHO is you must not be a shop owner but perhaps a hourly worker.  The reality of your $1000 in a month number is that of that about $600 to $650 of that is reimbursement for parts and shipping you paid in the front end.  That leaves $350 to $400 for a shop owner and you sound like a larger city location (Denver?).  Remember also if you are an employee your owner is paying your salary and other shop expenses for the period you are working on those machines out of that also.  Even at $400 a month which my experience would say is extremely high that would not be what most would consider "getting rich".  You can make a profit from doing warranty repairs but quite frankly the real money in warranty repairs is the consumer walking in your door that may have not otherwise.  Respect their product and treat them honestly and you could earn repeat business and referrals the real profit in warranty repairs.

 
You misquoted.  To be accurate you should say ..."getting rich on dyson warranty work AND REPAIRS".......
 
BTW for a professional who is reticent on your own dyson background (for fear of personal and family reprisal on the Forum) your questions and assessments are very pushy (and tacky).  (IMHO)
 
Why are you privileged to ask and know these details about someone else's dyson business if you are not first equally willing to say what they are for you?  
 
In my old fashioned vacuum days, protocal among industry professionals was reciprocal?  You tell me, and I'll tell you was the standard of information exchange.  
 
 
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Reply #82 - 05/01/06 at 9:58am
 
Nice try Carmine I asked no hard pushy questions just used information that was happily already given.  As for the amount of Dyson work out of warranty right now it is miniscule and no honest shop is getting rich on those either.  You are the one in the habit of asking questions that must be answered for other to prove credibility,  was that 17 questions in one post you demanded of Bruce?  Lets go back to the fact though I did not push on questions they were statements made on themselves.
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Reply #83 - 05/01/06 at 11:12am
 
Quote from JimB   on 05/01/06 at 9:58am:
N... As for the amount of Dyson work out of warranty right now it is miniscule and no honest shop is getting rich on those either. ...

 
Are we to assume that you have access to data from all Dyson authorized repair facilities on revenues from Dyson repairs, and you have data and some innate ability to categorize them as to their honesty?  
 
I believe it was Dual who made the comment that he had purchased large quantities of Dyson replacement parts in order to make a fortune for retirement.  I believe most people recognize Dual as the Dyson expert on this forum.  
So if Dual says that he expects to make his fortune doing Dyson repairs, people take him seriously.  
 
Quote from dualcyclone   on 03/07/05 at 1:00pm:
Most bagless vacuums are not 'healthy' to empty. Let's face it, even the Dyson isn't perfect. The Air-Way is about the best (with the Air-Way allergy seals and allergy bags) there is as far as clean emptying and no dust after the bag. ...

Regarding Carmine's post, foresight has proven for me, once again, to be a great thing. I stocked up on Dyson repair parts - over $3000 in Dyson parts are sitting in my service room - waiting. I have tons of brush rollers, hoses, soleplates, etc. Many people refer to Dysons as 'robot' vacuums (due to their unique look). I figure, I'm probably the only person in the entire city with repair parts and technical know-how to fix the 'robots' and I can make a small fortune doing so. I plan on retiring on from the profit just on brush rollers.

 
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Reply #84 - 05/01/06 at 3:30pm
 
Rat,
  It does not take inside info to no that a very small portion of dyson's are out of there two year warranty it is a fact.  And yes I would stand by strongly that if you are being honest in handling dyson warranty work you simply are not getting rich.  I think only those not doing dyson warranty and trying to push another product by denigrating dyson are claiming that you can get rich from dyson warranty's.  As far as Dual he seems to feel he has the market cornered in his area I too feel my competitors closed mindeness on this new product line has allowed me a greater share of the business profit than I probably should have.  I am happy everyday that dyson has decided to strategically partner with hometown shops for service and offer margins although not great at least good enough to take some big box sales away however much of my competition are old dogs not willing to learn a new trick allowing me a bigger piece of the pie.  Everyone has different business models but I tend to think dual was speaking rhetorically when he said he was going to retire on $3000 worth of parts.  Take that literally if you choose, but my experience tells me that you and I both know those $3000 dollars of parts are not a guarantee of great wealth or a literal retirment plan.
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Reply #85 - 05/01/06 at 5:55pm
 
Quote from JimB   on 05/01/06 at 3:30pm:
Rat,
 .... I too feel my competitors closed mindeness on this new product line has allowed me a greater share of the business profit than I probably should have...however much of my competition are old dogs not willing to learn a new trick allowing me a bigger piece of the pie... I tend to think dual was speaking rhetorically... .

 
From Webster's College Edition Dictionary:
 
Rich is the general word for one who has more money or income-producing property than is necessary to satisfy his personal needs.
 
Rhetorically: Having the nature of rhetoric or artificial eloquence; showy and elaborate in style.
 
Any more you want to add to clarify the posts on your and Dual's dyson repairs?
 
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Reply #86 - 05/01/06 at 7:04pm
 
No need to clarify.  I think all here were comfortable with defining "rich" and "rhetorically" on our own.  You don't need an Ivy league degree even us repair guys can figure that out on our own.
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Reply #87 - 05/02/06 at 3:05am
 
Quote from JimB   on 05/01/06 at 7:04pm:
No need to clarify.  I think all here were comfortable with defining "rich" and "rhetorically" on our own.  You don't need an Ivy league degree even us repair guys can figure that out on our own.  

 
 
I believe the not so fragrant odor of your posts on the subject helps define the words very well for the Forum.
 
Webster's dictionary is a wonderful tool to reduce rhetoric (with/without and Ivy league degree) into plain English.  A good sense of smell like I said helps too.    
 
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Reply #88 - 05/02/06 at 11:28am
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio   on 05/02/06 at 3:05am:



I believe the not so fragrant odor of your posts on the subject helps define the words very well for the Forum.

Webster's dictionary is a wonderful tool to reduce rhetoric (with/without and Ivy league degree) into plain English.  A good sense of smell like I said helps too.    

Carmine D.

 
It is a shame as opposed to having a discussion or debate about the statements in my post that are specific to the machines and repairs you need constantly divert to rhetoric and insults.  I can take the insults as I am aware I am interupting your personal crusade but at least include some facts in the post as well.  I get you don't like the opinions I have or the facts I offer but which parts of my posts on dyson repairs and warranty to you disagree with?
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Reply #89 - 05/02/06 at 1:40pm
 
I don't know where to start.  You can't agree on Webster's definitions of "rich" and "rhetoric" as they apply to your posts and Dual's posts.  It's an exercise in futility to respond to you on this subject and expect to reach a mutually agreeable understanding.  
 
The consensus on the matter expressed by Dual, Old-timer, Vacuuman and Tiger is correct.  You are not and it is evident you are not based on your own words.  RAT presented the facts to you in the most diplomatic way he could using Dual's own words to rebut you.  You called it "rhetoric" (meaningless showy artificial words)not Dual.      
 
Let me summarize the exchanges on the dyson repairs as simply as possible:
 
Jim, you and all the dyson experts you can summon to support your nonsensical illogical posts can no more claim righteous authority to speak on this subject than you can claim that Dual, Old-timer, Tiger, Vacuuman, RAT, and I are all wrong and we can't.  I'll go unequivocally with the majority opinion and consensus on this one.  
 
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