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Re: Dyson DC21
Reply #30 - 03/12/07 at 2:26pm
 
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Reply #31 - 03/12/07 at 5:58pm
 
Excuse my stupidity, but what is the difference between the  DC19, DC20, and DC21?  
 
I was in a Currys store and saw them up close. They all look like DC08's with no particular feature that would entice me to buy them. There was no mention of digital motors; and in fact they had less suction power than DC08.
 
Has Dyson decided to give each model variant (i.e.; Animal, Allergy, Origin, etc.) its own model number?
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Reply #32 - 03/12/07 at 7:48pm
 
Quote from Trilobite on 03/12/07 at 5:58pm:


Has Dyson decided to give each model variant (i.e.; Animal, Allergy, Origin, etc.) its own model number?

 
The DC21 is in Canada for sale (according to the dyson CAN Web site): Two models are available: The DC21 Stowaway; and the DC21 Stowaway Full Kit which is available exclusively at COSTCO.  Same model number, different model name.  In the USA, the short-lived DC11 dyson canister didn't have a name.  Big mistake by dyson.  Customers can't remember model numbers but they can easily remember catchy names.
 
Why the DC21 in Canada FIRST?  Canadian vacuum consumers have always been more inclined to canisters and tanks (commonly called cylinders in the EU) than the US vacuum buyers.  Americans have shown a propensity over the last half century for uprights.  Hence the prevalence and popularity of central vacuum systems in Canada vice the USA.  
 
Although the tide has been changing recently in the USA with more consumers inclined to buy canisters and CVS.  Still uprights are king of the hill in the USA and I don't think any canister and/or tank with/without a top notch power nozzle can change the half century trend away from uprights.  
 
Did the failed attempt of the dyson DC11 cann in the USA "stigmatize" dyson's reputation for canisters worldwide and particularly the DC11?  Maybe.  And quite possibly the reason for different model numbers and "names" for dyson canns.  
 
I always opined that dyson would reintro the cann in the USA and use the same model number (DC11) but assign it a name.  I would have thought dyson would want to vindicate the fiasco of the DC11 in the USA.  But to date, more than 2 years after dyson folded his tent on canisters in the USA and went home, the company and its founder have proven me wrong.
 
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Reply #33 - 03/13/07 at 12:18am
 
Looks like it's going to be one heavy canister. 22 Pounds.
 
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Reply #34 - 03/13/07 at 8:15am
 
Lighter than the DC11 which weighed in at 24 pounds.  Less airwatts too.
 
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Reply #35 - 03/13/07 at 6:40pm
 
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The DC21 has a motor powered brush head and is for the US/Canada markets only (well so far), would be nice of Dyson to launch motor power brush head again on a canister model for the UK!!
 
The DC19 and DC20 replace the DC08 and DC08TW models in the UK and Europe. The DC19 Origin replaces the DC08 Origin.  I forgot to say the other day like the DC08 Origin the DC19 Origin doesn't have a wrap around hose!
 
The DC20 Stowaway model replaces the DC08TW models all having the wrap around hose, stowaway hose!  The top DC20 has the air flow powered brush head. Where as the DC21 in the US/Canada has a power head as standard on both models which is driven by a motor not air flow.  The brush head on the DC21 is similuar to that used on the DC15 The Ball, DC17 and DC18 Slim!
 
All 3 models DC19, DC20 and DC21 look like they are base on the DC08 model with the main difference (apart from a few different colour changes) is they all (well I know the DC19 and DC20 do I'm sure the DC21 does to!!) use Root 8 Cyclone Technology and not root 12 cyclone technology as the DC08 and DC08TW uses!  The DC08TW in the UK is 300 airwatts using a 1400 watt motor, I know the DC19 and DC20 use the same motor but not sure on the airwatts!  I would think they would be lower! Thats the only differences I know of so far!
 
They could of used the digital motor or easy empty release bins like on the DC12 but they have choose not to!  Not sure why!?  Not sure why they have launched the DC19 and DC20 to replace both DC08 and DC08TW!  Like you say they are just DC08's if you just quickly look at them!
 
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Reply #36 - 03/13/07 at 7:53pm
 
The Dyson DC12 is shown, briefly demoed by James, in the video clip that accompanies this news article :-
 
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_8046.aspx
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Reply #37 - 03/13/07 at 7:59pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 03/13/07 at 8:15am:
Lighter than the DC11 which weighed in at 24 pounds.  Less airwatts too.

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The USA dyson DC11 is rated at 275 airwatts.  The dyson DC21 Stowaway (Canada) is rated at 220 airwatts.  As pointed out by Tiger21, the USA dyson DC07 is rated at 300 airwatts and the USA DC17 Absolute Animal is rated at 220 airwatts.  Dyson maintains that "watts" is an irrelevant motor performance measurement because it gauges electrical usage.
 
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Reply #38 - 03/13/07 at 8:13pm
 
Look at the below web link
 
http://www.dyson.ie/range/range_overview.asp?model=DC20&sinavtype=menu
 
DC20 is on Irelands website.  The airwatts is 280 for the DC20 where as the DC08TW is 300 on the UK web!  The DC20 machine weight is 8.58kg where as the DC08 is 8.6kg!  It also says on the allergy model it uses Root 7 Cyclone, I thought that was Root 8!  As the DC07, DC14 and DC15 use Root 8 and only have 7 Small cylones and one big outer one just like the DC20!
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Reply #39 - 03/13/07 at 11:44pm
 
There seems to be no real advance in Dyson's technology. Maybe they're repackaging surplus spare parts, to get rid of them!
 
Have a look at this, and tell me what you think of patent infringement...!
 
http://www.vax.co.uk/zero/index.php
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