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Dyson DC21 (Read 1393 times)
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Re: Dyson DC21
Reply #40 - 03/14/07 at 2:08am
 
Quote from Trilobite on 03/13/07 at 11:44pm:
There seems to be no real advance in Dyson's technology. Maybe they're repackaging surplus spare parts, to get rid of them!

Have a look at this, and tell me what you think of patent infringement...!

http://www.vax.co.uk/zero/index.php

 
Re: Patent rip off?  Yes!  I'm no lawyer, but certainly a near copy of Dyson’s multi-cyclones, shroud and fine dust collection bin.
 
Re: new Dyson technology.
This Stowaway has a pivotal/ball wand  that should turn to a greater degree than the norm.  Funny how Dyson and the retailers do not exploit this. - Invent something, make it better and then barely mention it? - Hmmm.  I have both the DC15 Ball and the DC05 Motorhead canister - this new canister seems to be the best of both worlds.
 
I found some Stowaway images and video here...
(look close on some of the images, you can see the underside workings of the ball on the wand)...
Images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/govacuum/tags/vdta/
 
Video:
http://www.govacuum.us/blog/
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Reply #41 - 03/14/07 at 5:44am
 
So no DC18 at the show in Las Vegas?
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Reply #42 - 03/14/07 at 8:37am
 
The VAX prices are much less expensive than the other brand vacuum and the dirt bin capacities are larger.  Good combinations to enhance "cyclonic" bagless vacuum competition.
 
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Reply #43 - 03/14/07 at 9:00pm
 
Quote from Dyson DC18 on 03/14/07 at 5:44am:
So no DC18 at the show in Las Vegas?

 
 
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Apparently no DC18 Slim.  Only the DC21 Stowaway.  It received a tepid reception at the VDTA even from dyson enthusiasts and admirers who didn't see much new in it from the DC04 save the electric PN.  It may not measure up as a full sized canister in the USA market.  More on the line of a compact canister for smaller living spaces and apartment dwellers.
 
It will be interesting to see how HSN and dyson pitches the DC21 Stowaway:  Lite and/or full size?
 
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Reply #44 - 03/15/07 at 11:07pm
 
The DC19 and 20 have been launched in the UK
 
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Reply #45 - 03/16/07 at 8:12am
 
Quote from Dyson DC18 on 03/15/07 at 11:07pm:
The DC19 and 20 have been launched in the UK

http://www.dyson.co.uk

 
And the air watts on both are 280.  Vice the 220 air watts of the CAN and USA DC21.  I suspect electric current differences (220 V and 110 V) are part of the reason for the differences in air watts but I don't know how much.  A test of both the DC19/20 and DC21 using a "converter/transformer" would probably indicate comparative suction and cleaning of the UK and USA versions.  If someone has the inclination, wherewithal, time and effort for the tests.
 
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Reply #46 - 03/16/07 at 10:26am
 
220,180,200,10, etc. Boy's the housing of the machine can only hold so big of a motor. The ratings can change by the size of the field. I would be willing to bet the static suction is the same on all of these machines. You would get a better feel for the machine by putting your hand over the hose end.
 
This was mentined in c.r. years ago.
 
So now that all this b.s. is put to rest,how about talking about longevity and parts availability.
 
 how many 40 year old dysons you see?
 
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Reply #47 - 03/16/07 at 12:05pm
 
Quote from old-timer on 03/16/07 at 10:26am:
You would get a better feel for the machine by putting your hand over the hose end.

This was mentined in c.r. years ago.

So now that all this b.s. is put to rest,how about talking about longevity and parts availability.

how many 40 year old dysons you see?

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In the old days, if a vacuum's attachment hose end stayed glued to the palm of your hand with the vacuum running, it was called good suction.
 
I see alot of DC07 models that are 2-3-4 years old "traded in" and sitting in vacuum stores' back rooms and salvage piles gathering dust.  I see new dyson display models in big box stores with finger tabs, bins, and other pieces/parts cracked and broken.  Not what one expects for vacuums that sell for $400 plus.  I suspect others do too (see "junked" dysons in vacuum stores and broken dyson display models in big box retailers).  
 
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Re: Dyson DC21
Reply #48 - 03/16/07 at 12:11pm
 
First DC21 on ebay for a nice price.
 
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Reply #49 - 03/17/07 at 8:06am
 
Quote from Dyson DC18 on 03/16/07 at 12:11pm:
First DC21 on ebay for a nice price.

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Difficult to say for sure until you take the vacuum through its home tests and trials.  Examination and usage up close and personal is a must before a brand new vacuum buy.  You never know the strengths and weaknesses of a vacuum/floorcare product until you try it out.  
 
On the other hand if the vacuum purchase is purely for aesthetic reasons, and it will be a display for conversation....then performance is irrelevant.  But there will always be another one, be patient.  
 
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