Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

Venson,

In regards can the older Lux models be upgraded to the newer motor??  Yes and NO.  From the exterior, both the old and new appear the same.  However, internally, the shaping/mold is different to accommodate the single stage motor vs a two stage unit.  The first single stage came out around 2004?? give or take, yes, you can put this newer, more powerful Johnson motor in it, all that is required is a new rubber gasket that sits at the back of the fan unit.  With the single stage motors, the shroud, for a lack of better term, that holds the motor, is screwed into the actual vacuum casing, not so for the two stage setup.  I have seen where a person has taken this new single stage and put it into the older two stage setup.  There was nothing there to keep the motor in place other than the cordwinder at the rear and the bag chamber at the front to keep the motor in place.  Don't know how long or well this will last, but time will tell. 

Vernon

Thanks Vernon.

Venson

www.aerusonline.com shows the new canister lineup. The new Guardian looks sleeker, smaller, is supposedly lighter and more powerful, and it still uses the 'R' style bag.

Trebor,

The new lux guardiian ultra uses the Style C bag. I recently purchased one.

Sincerely,

Bud

Sorry, the website is wrong. I looked at the bags link for the new guardian. How do you like it?

Trebor,

For the most part I like it. The motor is very loud and high pitched. The machine needs a multiple speed motor. The suction relief does no good at all. I can't use the sidekick even with the suction relief open. Sucks upholstery and bedspreads in and stalls out the sidekick. They have a bag problem that I have brought to their attention (with their new 2 layer bag, it pulls the inner layer loose exposing a lot of the outer layer bag. I sent them two used bags at their request and they sent me a new box of bags that do the same thing. They promised to let me know their findings, but about 3 weeks ago they turned the bags over to engineering and said it would take about a week for testing. I followed up a week ago and told them I did expect a reply as to what they found. I don't think they plan on telling me anything, which po's me very much. It's obvious they have a problem.

Nice Color Combination

Comfortable Handle

Steers very well

Looks great - Nice colors

Tools store on the wand

Totally sealed system

On off switch is much better

And most importantly, it cleans very well.

Bud

Hello Bud;

You probably did already, and if so can ignore this.  In asking for a reply on the bags, you might want to also provide your positive comments to Aerus on the unit's performance. 

Carmine D. 

budmattingly wrote:

Bud, & others here:

What do you opine is the problem with the bags?

Carmine D.

The multi-layer bags were originally lined with 3 layers of what appeared to be something akin to facial tissue, soft, porous, and in need of the sturdier outer paper shell that enclosed them. The bags for the Silverado clone (called 'The Perfect') use the clothlike filter material sometimes labelled 3M filtrete, but  I think there are more brands out there now. The new Airway bags, as most new high quality bags, are made of this material for durability, filtration, strong cleaning power as the bag fills, and resistance to tearing. They are also more expensive than their predecessors, in part, because they need less frequent replacement. With a much more powerful motor, and the quality control issues involved in outsourcing it would seem the new Aerus/Lux bags are simply not sturdy enough.   During the first part of a bag's useful life in an Electrolux, the cleaning power actually increases before it begins to drop off (on average, depending on the material being sucked up) due to a favorable shift in the airflow/suction ratio.  I saw the data plotted on the parabolic curve at the Lux factory in Bristol, VA. This was born out over decades of testing. There was obviously insufficient testing of the new bags because it was simply the familiar 'C' style bag used since the model 60. The very first 'C' bag was single layer paper. The salesmen would use an entire wrapper of bags during a demo because the single layer coated quickly and the automatic feature shut the machine off after only a few tablespoons of dirt had been picked up. Thus the multi-layer bag was created out of necessity. Testing would have revealed this flaw before manufacturing thousand of wrappers, but it was not deemed necessary.  Apparently, at least in this regard, Aerus has learned nothing from history, but as George Santayana said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

As such Trebor, should be an easy fix for Aerus. 

Carmine D.