Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

Carmine,

I had a few bags left out of a box and also bought a new box when I purchased the vacuum. Then when I sent the bags for testing, they sent me another box. All 3 had the same issue. I also have a pro care upright. I cut one of their bags and compared it to one out of each stock I had. Procare glues their inner layer in several places including the seam where the inner layer overlaps. Aerus does not have as many glue spots and the seam where it overlaps is not glued on the seam. Thus the problem, the cyclonic action with the new more powerful motor pulls the inner layer off of an area of about 2 to 3 inches for most of the length of the bag. Obviously I don't want dust and dirt penetrating the outer bag and going through the motor. I know I have a 20 year warranty, but I have always taken very good care of my vacuums and always use the original bags that were designed for that machine. I recently purchased the new upright that matches the Lux guardian ultra. I cut the upright bag and it is the same way the canister bags are, not glued on the overlaping seam. I haven't checked it to see if the inner layer is pulling away yet. I will let you know when I do.

This kind of all started when someone on this forum asked the question. Did Aerus check the bag for performance in the new machine, since it had a more powerful motor?  I had to go look............

Sincerely,

Bud

budmattingly wrote:

Bud,

You're absolutely right.  I suspect the bag maker blew it.  Aerus needs to redeem a whole batch of bad bags and get new and better replacements.

If you haven't already, you may want to fit some a piece[s] of the bag material cut to fit the rear end of the machine's bag holder to serve as a filter barrier.  This should keep dirt/dust overflow from the bag from penetrating the motor.  The greater problem of the Aerus bags.

Carmine D.

What your seeing is the end result of outsourcing. When corporate decided to sell off the machines and tooling to eureka aka electrolux, They take what they get from china and have to live with it,UNTIL THE CONTRACT EXPIRES

This has been going on for a long time , and now that the factory is retooled the quality control is being handled again in house.

The last good bag was the grey silveado bags................

mole

mole wrote:
Hi MP:E,

Wow! You're talking way back to the mid-70s. I bought a Silverado in 1974.

Venson

Hi Big V

If you bought a silverardo in 1974, you must of bought a prototype, It was not released till 1982.

Maybe you bought a SUPER J also a great machine,i liked the lightning bolts on the bags,they were yellow in color,B.T.W. theres a problem on the blue bags also its with the couplings.SOMETHINGS GOT TO BE DONE, Also its not a bad idea to staple the pleat At the bottom of the bag.

KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED, I have also replaced many late model motors because of bag breakage and dirt seepage into the fans, The new vortec style motors are not as rugged as the older motors, the rpms are into orbit and are very dust and dirt sensitive,unlike the old workhorse motors. I believe the ddm motor also has this same problem.

regards

MOLE

mole wrote:
Hi MOLE,

Oops! You know -- you're right it wasn't 1974. That was the year for a used Pontiac Firebird and a new Filter Queen with the little German-made PN. The Super J was bright gold in color so that couldn't be it nor was it the bronze model, the Olympia One . I do remember well buying the Silverado while working at a Manhattan type shop just up the street from the dealer at the time. I assume I must have bought the Silverado after I moved from Manhattan, around 1981.

Eventually I passed it on to my best friend, and can vouch for its durability as it survived his cleaning man for almost 20 years until my friend passed away in 2005. I also had given him a Hoover Concept One upright with power drive which did not fare well. Apparently the power drive freaked the cleaning guy out.

That said, of all the bagged vacuums I've used or owned I have never experienced a disposable bag break with an Electrolux. Have you?

That I always attributed to the contained space of the bag chamber. The most bag-break prone I recall were the Lewyt's using the Speed-sak.

Venson

mole wrote:

Hello Mole, Venson:

Perhaps, the Golden J in 74-75 to commemorate Lux's 50th Anniversary? 

Agree on the stapling the seam.  Excellent idea.

Carmine D.

Bud, noise levels solved

Lux has come out with a solution for the high pitch/noise levels these newer, more powerful motors produce.  They have taken what looks like a nylon mesh pot/pan scrubber and inserted it into the exhaust port on the Legacy and Classic models.  Does it dampen the noise???  YES!!  BUT, I brought out my Baird airflow meter, and the airflow has now  dropped about 15% or so.  What a great idea     I don't believe they are installing this on the Guardian, but you could ask your dealer for the material as it will still fit yours. 

Vernon

Vernon,

That is where they fitted the hepa filter on the new machine.

Bud

Bud,

If you were to remove your hepa filter and look into the hole where the air is discharged, this is where the "sound filter" is pushed in.

Vernon