Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

DIB:

I would like to see the DC17 in your line up of dysons.  If you can add it?

When I saw Mole's comment that dyson has a problem, I thought he was going to say that the only dyson ever to make the top 10 by Consumer Reports, the DC17, is not in the line up. 

Knowing Mr. Dyson was concerned about the consistent low dyson ratings by Which?, and his subsequent 5 year dyson Warranty, the CR ratings have to trouble him too, especially after 6 years in the USA.  CR was extremely critical of the original dyson DC15 ball and the ball spin off: Slim DC18.  Both are among the worse rated dysons in March 2008. 

What will CR say about the DC24 and DC25, both evolved from the DC 15 and DC18?  If CR isn't impressed with the latest dyson ball spinoffs then perhaps Mr. Dyson, like Mole implies, may have to rethink the dyson mantra.  Especially if new dyson sales wane.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

MOLE  That's a very good point you've made.  Something I would have never of thought of. I am a user of the older Dyson DC04 so have not got this problem with it.  To be honest I do not like the ball,  I think it makes the machines bulky,  I know they may be good for twisting the cleaner about but I never find I have to twist my machine but (only in a small space) because my DC04 has such strong suctoion and no release on the soleplate so the machine sticks to the Lino in the bathroom and kitchen.

bucks03 wrote:

I wonder how many vacuum buyers and users feel this way? 

Dyson backed into the airblade by accident.  The ball technology

was made for wheel barrows not vacuums.  Are vacuums wheel barrows?

Vacuum buyers will be the judge.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine, I simply cut out the Dyson lineup from his UK web page and drew a line over the handles.  The image you asked for, I just copied from the US site and drew some lines.  It is the easiest for me.

As much as I dislike Consumer Reports on vacuums, at times it is science and at times it is a circus.  Yes, it has to hurt Dyson sales to some degree.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Thank you DIB. 

I would agree CR ratings affect vacuum sales.  But for Mr. Dyson, CR ratings are much more.  CR ratings affect his reputation as engineer and inventor.

WRT to ball technology on vacuums:  Maybe on full size, heavy duty vacuums like a DC17.  But lightweight household vacuums? Do you need ball technology?  The Dirt Devil Kruz [pronounced cruise] does marvelously with 3 simple ordinary wheels.  It's on my buy list  based solely on the favorable HSN demo which so impressed the HSN sales staffers.  More than any vacuum product I've ever seen advertised on home sales TV.

Carmine D.

Just so you people know this,the dirt devil swivelglide vacuum outmanuevers a dc15,and it's only 39.95.........

MOLE

mole wrote:

You forgot to add – ..[wrong], lazy and fairly stupid too.        DIB

updated on: 4/11/08

Mole attacked Mr. Dyson (one of many, many shameless attacks) and his benevolent $50 million dollar gift and school for kids to learn to innovate and engineer.  This should ultimately produce thousands of jobs and steams of tax income into/for the UK and perhaps other countries.  I defended the good.

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I’m setting the record straight….

“Suits” in general of American vacuum cleaner manufacturing are “lazy and fairly stupid.” I have seen it first hand and am in the position to comment.  When it comes to respecting, understanding, appreciating and courting innovation and inventors American vacuum manufacturers do not lead.  I have much respect for the hard working and moral, no matter their vocation.     DIB

 

I'll say it again...  I respect the opinions and vocations of the hard working and moral.

CarmineD wrote:

CarmineD  Exactly.  a vacuum cleaner is not a ballbarrow.  I do not really see much advantage of having the Ball in the middle, I have used it and not liked it.  The Ball is simply just to keep people interested I think.  If Dyson really want to create as 'Slim' vacuum cleaner then they should remove the ball and create a vacuum cleaner that is slim without the bulge of the ball in gthe middle.  A machine like the older DC03 was good and that didn't have the ball, it was able to lie completely flat to the ground which allowed the user to vacuum under Coffee Tables and Beds unlike the Ball models which are not able due to the diameter of the ball.

I was in Target today looking for a chaise lounger in preparation for the 90 degree weather in LV this weekend.  Eat your hearts out!

Stopped by the vacuum aisle.  Saw the DC24.  Tiny dirt bin.  Huge ball wheel looks awkward on the petite dyson DC24.  Monthly pre-filter washings. Low cord wraps.  If you like bending over to touch your feet with your hands, you'll like the DC24 cord wrap. Terrible bin lid cover release mechanism.  Chintzy.  Didn't work after numerous tries by my Wife and I.  Had to open/close the bin lid manually.  I don't like the brushbar.  It's not aggressive enough for surface cleaning and grooming on carpets IMHO.  Better suited for floors.  $399 plus a $50 Target Gift Card.

Didn't try the vacuum operation.  Leave that test for BEST BUY.  Unless the vacuum operation on carpets proves worthy of the $399 price tag, it's not on my short list as a lightweight daily user in my home.   My impression is that it competes with all the mini and lite stick vacuum uprights [$50 retail] on the market.  But with a very pricey sticker. If anyone uses the dyson 24 ball, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on my comments.

BTW, this Target store has the DC07 Animal, DC14 Target Exclusive [being sold on clearance], DC18 Slim, DC17, and now the DC24.  No other dysons.  All the dysons come with a $50 Gift Card with purchase.  

I looked for the Kruz  [thanks for the nice pic DIB]  but it was not in stock yet.  That one is on my buy list unless it totally doesn't do what I saw it do on HSN TV.

Carmine D.