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lland


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Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Original Message   Jan 23, 2005 8:43 pm
We have a function to go to yesterday.  It's snowing the whole time and when I get home there's about eight inches on the ground.  earlier in the day I was all psyched to get a blowin' but when I got home, I felt terrible and went to bet early.

I'm kind of glad I didn't clear the driveway because when I wake up, there's twice as much snow and all of the dirves that were cleared are once again, covered.  So, I go out, spend ten minutes trying to fire up the Toro before I realize I have the fuel shut-off valve on "off."  I turn it on and the 'Ol Tec starts with one pull. 

The snow is around fifteen inches deep but some drifts were three to four feet and the EOD was about three feet of pretty heavily packed snow.  El Toro handles it all in stride until I get to the right side of the EOD when I am immediately reminded of the email I recevied from Toro a while back:

"Toro snow throwers do not have shear pins.  The reason for this is if you hit something while snow throwing, the auger and engine will stop letting you know that something is wrong.  You can then remove whatever it was that you hit, start up the machine, and continue snow throwing.  If the snow thrower had shear pins, they would need to be replaced before starting the snow thrower again."

With all the snow, who expected the paper to be delivered...and the SUNDAY paper at that.  Well, true to Toro's word, the machine ingested the paper and stopped immediatley (I guess the shearless system works).  I didn't even have to look, I knew what had happened.  So, when I gor around to the front, there in all it's shredded glory is the Sunday paper jammed tight between the auger, impeller and housing.  A big screwdriver (the tool, not the drink), a sharp utility knife, and about thirty minutes of pulling out bits of paper, I get it a bit looser.  I figured since the machine got itself into this trouble, let it get itself out.  I start her up, release the auger and out flies shredded newspaper, not unlike the skiier who fell into the bug snowblower in James Bond's "On Her Majesty's Secret Service."

I get the driveway done, a couple of hundred feet of walk, and figure I'll do the paver walks and patio in back so the dogs will have a place to run around other than the deep snow.  While going along the sitting wall, the machine (apparently still hungry after eating the paper) scoops up about sixty feet of previously unseed low voltage wire.  This time the machine just snaps the wire and keeps running but I stop to look.  There it is, wrapped around the auger.  Off it comes, and blowing continues with no more events.  Overall, a good day.

LL

2001 Toro 20023 Personal Pace
2002 John Deere Trimmer/Edger/Blower
2003 Craftsman DYT 4000 - 25HP/48" w/bagger
2003 Toro 826LE Snowblower
2004 Mantis Tiller/Dethatcher/Aerator/Edger
2005 Husqvarna 145BT Backpack Blower
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jogo


Location: Westchester N.Y.
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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #3   Jan 23, 2005 9:55 pm
I'll take a shear pin system also...just more to go wrong on the other sytem. BUT...we'd still have to get the damned paper out after replacing the shear pin

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ChrisS


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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #4   Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
Good Deal LL.

I had a lot of rope from a sled get tangled thanks the the 13 yr old and cut a extension cord today in half today thanks to the wife lol.....Overall a good day.... 

C

Honda 928TA, Ariens 924 STE, Toro single stage S-620, 95 Jeep Wrangler with a 6 foot Fisher Plow, many shovels, one 14 year old boy.  Craftsman 01 1000 LTX pimp Gold LT 20hp Briggs OHV V-twin.  Tough as it is ugly.
jogo


Location: Westchester N.Y.
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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #5   Jan 23, 2005 10:12 pm
ChrisS wrote:
Good Deal LL.

I had a lot of rope from a sled get tangled thanks the the 13 yr old and cut a extension cord today in half today thanks to the wife lol.....Overall a good day.... 

C



Yeah that's the ticket...sure the wife put that in my way, then the kid...why he sabbotaged me.

 sorry could not resist!

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ChrisS


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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #6   Jan 23, 2005 10:18 pm
LOL....

The boy apologized, the wife blamed me lol...Ah life is good lol....

C

Honda 928TA, Ariens 924 STE, Toro single stage S-620, 95 Jeep Wrangler with a 6 foot Fisher Plow, many shovels, one 14 year old boy.  Craftsman 01 1000 LTX pimp Gold LT 20hp Briggs OHV V-twin.  Tough as it is ugly.
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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #7   Jan 24, 2005 12:25 am
I'm glad I don't get the paper...LOL.  LL, I guess you backed the blower back into the garage, to remove the paper and hopfully didn't stay in that cold.   

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whitedog


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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #8   Jan 24, 2005 7:16 am
lland wrote:  So, when I gor around to the front, there in all it's shredded glory is the Sunday paper jammed tight between the auger, impeller and housing. 

this is the key sentence... between impeller and housing. i did this last year 1st time out with new ariens. took me an hour to remove the jammed newspaper. shear bolts have no impact on impeller jams.

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terrapin24h


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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #9   Jan 24, 2005 6:56 pm
i think where the shearpin-less system shows its weakness is when you get something wrapped around the auger.  Cause then you just pop the pins(if they havent gone on thier own) and spin the auger(s) to get the thing out.  But i would have to think that you would have to hit a very particular set of conditions to see it happen.  For "normal" shaering events(accidentally bumping into your retaining wall, for example) i would think toro's system would work fine.

--chris
2001 Homelite VacAttack Blower
2001 6hp Toro PPace 22" mower
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jake14mw


Joined: Jan 27, 2005
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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #10   Jan 27, 2005 5:02 pm
Do Toros really not have shear pins?  I just bought a 1028xle and asked my dealer about that, and he said that they do have shear pins, but the units are designed to stop rather than have the pins break.  He said in an extreme case the pin will break, but unlikely.  I don't know much about these things but I know my unit has two brass colored bolts going through the "auger axle".  Are these shear pins?  What's the real story?  thanks.
jubol


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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #11   Jan 27, 2005 5:11 pm
  Jake14,

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Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #12   Jan 27, 2005 5:52 pm
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