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Dyson Videos/Articles - for Dyson HATERS only (Read 4440 times)
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Dyson Videos/Articles - for Dyson HATERS only
04/01/07 at 11:23pm
 
Quote from No Loss of Suction on 03/20/07 at 2:49am:
Videos…
DC12 from a blog in the Netherlands.
http://www.bright.nl/uitpakparty-dyson-dc12

James Dyson interviewed on CBCtelevision around the time of his Canadian Stowaway, Slim and Design contest launch.
http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/video.php?id=1388

James Dyson interviewed in Canada about his invention/design contest (launch).
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_8046.aspx


Images…
Very large image of a DC18.
http://www.fileden.com/public/2006/10/10/452c3291f27f0570719380.jpg

More DC18…
http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/Dysonslim/


 
Here's your equal opportunity place to criticize Dyson's products.  No Dyson lovers allowed.  What are the weaknesses of these new Dyson products?
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Reply #1 - 04/02/07 at 4:24am
 
Hmm!
 
"..for Dyson HATERS only" and not for Dyson HATERS  
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Reply #2 - 04/02/07 at 8:58am
 
Quote from RAT on 04/01/07 at 11:23pm:


Here's your equal opportunity place to criticize Dyson's products.  No Dyson lovers allowed.  What are the weaknesses of these new Dyson products?  

 
Dyson DC21 Stowaway canister:  
 
Weaknesses:  
 
Weight  23.05 lbs.  On the heavy side for a Stowaway.  Comparable to the 24 lbs. DC11.
 
Suction power 220 airwatts vice the DC11 with 300 air watts.  Price the same $499?
  
Bin capacity  .44 gallons.  Dirt capacity on the small side.
 
The slant position of the bin and shroud allows the dirt to "smother" the shroud openings.  This can be problematic especially if the bin overfills (which is very likely since it has a small capacity).  Filters will have to overwork causing clogging and then the suction to fall off and the motor to overheat.  There is a reason for cyclonic bagless vacuums to have straight up and down bins and shrouds with max fill lines and warnings for frequent bin dumping.  Form and style shouldn't compromise function.  
 
Cord length  16.4 Feet  Very short for a canister.  (Tiger21 was right on the cord length).
 
Much too pricey at $499 for a big box retail canister.  
 
Clumsy on board attachment storage with hose and power nozzle (just like the DC11).  
 
Power nozzle too heavy, awkward, and bulky for side hang storage on board (just like the DC11).  Will fall off (just like the DC11) and break.
 
Power nozzle requires numerous back and forth passes over the same area to pick up lint and pet hair on rugs (just like the DC11).  Probably due in part to the pivoting neck and "ball" wheel design.  The combination causes the power nozzle to flip flop and waffle over the carpets without thoroughly cleaning.  
 
A short list, more to come.
 
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Reply #3 - 04/02/07 at 3:42pm
 
From Hour Blog:  James Dyson and wife "Grew their own vegtables to eat. Even made their own clothes" during the lean years.  James notes that as an inventor you tend to have 1 or 2 inventions every five years.  
 
It does seem like it took about 5 years for Dyson to develop a marginally decent brush roll.  Perhaps the next big invention will be a headlight.  
 
 
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Reply #4 - 04/02/07 at 5:12pm
 
Quote from RAT on 04/02/07 at 3:42pm:
From Hour Blog:  James Dyson and wife "Grew their own vegtables to eat. Even made their own clothes" during the lean years.  James notes that as an inventor you tend to have 1 or 2 inventions every five years.  

It does seem like it took about 5 years for Dyson to develop a marginally decent brush roll.  Perhaps the next big invention will be a headlight.  



 
And it was the $6.3 MILLION James Dyson collected from HOOVER for patent infringement that allowed him to open the dyson plant in Malmesbury UK in 1993.  Not the plants and vegetables his family raised to eat.
 
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Reply #5 - 04/02/07 at 5:51pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/02/07 at 5:12pm:
Quote from RAT on 04/02/07 at 3:42pm:




And it was the $6.3 MILLION James Dyson collected from HOOVER for patent infringement that allowed him to open the dyson plant in Malmesbury UK in 1993.  Not the plants and vegetables his family raised to eat.

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And yet the Lawsuit wasn't until 2000 with the settlement paid in 2002, perhaps dyson has invented a time machine also?
 
Sorry did not to intrude on the thread just amazed by some of the statements of "fact" that can be read here sometimes.
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Reply #6 - 04/02/07 at 6:12pm
 
Quote from JimB on 04/02/07 at 5:51pm:


And yet the Lawsuit wasn't until 2000 with the settlement paid in 2002, perhaps dyson has invented a time machine also?

Sorry did not to intrude on the thread just amazed by some of the statements of "fact" that can be read here sometimes.

 
 
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Gotcha!  APRIL FOOL!  Wink
 
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Reply #7 - 04/02/07 at 8:05pm
 
Quote from RAT on 04/02/07 at 3:42pm:
From Hour Blog:  James Dyson and wife "Grew their own vegtables to eat. Even made their own clothes" during the lean years.  James notes that as an inventor you tend to have 1 or 2 inventions every five years.  

It does seem like it took about 5 years for Dyson to develop a marginally decent brush roll.  Perhaps the next big invention will be a headlight.  


 
Hello RAT:
 
So, I think you're saying that for $469, the dyson DC18 Slim should not only have an industry standard revolving brush (after 5 years in the USA vacuum industry) but also at least a front headlamp!  I would most definitely have to agree with you.  
 
First weakness for the DC18 Slim duly noted by RAT.
 
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Reply #8 - 04/03/07 at 4:11pm
 
The oddest thing with Dyson is that each "improved" model seems to have a higher price, less suction, a shorter cord, and a smaller dirt bin.  While some of Dyson's features are innovative, some like the ball seem to be forced onto the design.  I believe it was Dual who once said that Dyson ought to hire someone like himself to be a historian for the company to keep them from continuing to re-invent things that were available in decades past.  I think they need a involve more women in the design of their products.  
 
I would recommend that Dyson contract out the manufacturing of the power nozzles for their canisters and brush rolls for uprights.
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Reply #9 - 04/03/07 at 5:44pm
 
Why wolud anyone mess with Dyson if there's other vacs that can outclean Dyson?  The Eureka Boss Smart Vac is a far BETTER upright; the Tri-Star is a far BETTER canister despite they use bags.  People who own either vac don't have to worry about dust flying all over the place b/c all they have to do is cover the paper bag & toss it instead of empty the dirt bin.  The Tri-Star is even better since it's die cast magnesium & NOT plastic compared to Dyson; it never loses suction as the bag fills & has a better brush than Dyson. Smiley
 
Anyone that wants a Dyson is getting ripped off b/c the Dyson doesn't clean very good & the're = Fantoms.  The Fantom Fury & Thunder were junk; now we have to deal with Dyson.  Fantom's only GOOD vac was the Lightning canister; everything else they made = worthless.
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