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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #90 - 05/02/06 at 2:35pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 05/02/06 at 1:40pm:

You can't agree on Webster's definitions of "rich" and "rhetoric" as they apply to your posts and Dual's posts. It's an exercise in futility to respond to you on this subject and expect to reach a mutually agreeable understanding.

Carmine D.

I agree with the Webster definitions, nice try at spin. I simply stated that he was being rhetorical in his stating that his $3,000 worth of parts were going to make him rich and be his retirement plan. In other words yes I think he was being showy in making his point. Are you actually making the point that he is being literal and then taking it another step an claiming indeed that he is currently becoming rich out of his foresight? Don't get me wrong I think he is making a wise move in cornereing a market in his area but currently getting rich you are kidding me.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #91 - 05/02/06 at 2:50pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 05/02/06 at 1:40pm:

The consensus on the matter expressed by Dual, Old-timer, Vacuuman and Tiger is correct.
Carmine D.

Ok guys, Carmine apparentely feels your are all stating you are all getting rich on Dyson warranty and repairs I call it bunk as I know for a fact my sales and repair numbers for dyson and where I rank with them nationally, even though it remains a relativelly small portion of my business, who wants to debate facts?

If you don't want to state numbers publicly PM me. We probably have the same service contact at dyson and it should be simple to authenticate each others claims if we both tell him its ok.

Lets here a claim from one shop getting rich on dyson repairs. Being called out by some guy pushing Hoover fusions at Walmart while telling me he knows what is best and true for the current vacuum shop business is getting old so lets hear it. How about you Old-timer is Carmine speaking for you. Are you getting rich on Dyson warranty work.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #92 - 05/02/06 at 5:49pm

There's no need to nitpick nuances and word definitions.
I believe its clear that there are long term costs to owning Dysons just like any other vacuum. Furthermore, owners should expect to do basic maintenace like cleaning the dirt cup, removing hair from the brush roll, and occasionally cleaning filters to maintain suction.

If my sole criteria was to purchase a bagless vacuum that required minimal cleaning and replacement of filters, I would likely purchase either a Rainbow or a Dyson. If you tend to accumulate hair on the brush roll, the Dyson still may require frequent hair removal.

My preference would be to just buy a decent vacuum that uses bags for dirt disposal.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #93 - 05/03/06 at 10:26am

HI JimB, no carmine does not speak for me, I can answer for myself. I AM NOT a dyson sales or service center, are we making money on dyson for the moment,the answer is no, because most of the machines out there are still under warranty, and should be fixed free of charge to the customer, as you well know, can i repair the machines, the answer is YES, just waiting for the major parts distribution companies to stock parts for them, I understand also a replacement non[oem] clutch and belt system is about to be released soon.I t was at the v.d.t.a. show this year.

regards, old-timer

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #94 - 05/03/06 at 12:55pm

Quote from JimB on 04/30/06 at 9:05pm:

I read what you said and I read how Carmine spun it (getting rich on dyson warranty repairs). My guess IMHO is you must not be a shop owner but perhaps a hourly worker. The reality of your $1000 in a month number is that of that about $600 to $650 of that is reimbursement for parts and shipping you paid in the front end. That leaves $350 to $400 for a shop owner and you sound like a larger city location (Denver?). Remember also if you are an employee your owner is paying your salary and other shop expenses for the period you are working on those machines out of that also. Even at $400 a month which my experience would say is extremely high that would not be what most would consider "getting rich". You can make a profit from doing warranty repairs but quite frankly the real money in warranty repairs is the consumer walking in your door that may have not otherwise. Respect their product and treat them honestly and you could earn repeat business and referrals the real profit in warranty repairs.

You misquoted. To be accurate you should say ..."getting rich on dyson warranty work AND REPAIRS".......

Jim:

Looks like you are still having problems with reading and comprehension. I told you once already and this makes it redundant.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #95 - 05/03/06 at 1:53pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 05/03/06 at 12:55pm:

You misquoted. To be accurate you should say ..."getting rich on dyson warranty work AND REPAIRS".......

Jim:

Looks like you are still having problems with reading and comprehension. I told you once already and this makes it redundant.

Carmine D.

OK Carmine, I added the "and" per your request to my posting. It will not change the facts of the responses. Any dyson warrant OR repair facts to share or are you still just running grammar checks?

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Carmine_Difazio Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5559	Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters Reply #96 - 05/03/06 at 3:15pm I think RAT's posts to you say it all. And the posts and reposts by the experts like Dual, Old-Timer, Vacuuman, and Tiger21 are all confirmations on the theme. I suggest time and Consumer Reports do the rest. Carmine D.
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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #97 - 05/03/06 at 4:19pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 05/03/06 at 3:15pm:

I think RAT's posts to you say it all. And the posts and reposts by the experts like Dual, Old-Timer, Vacuuman, and Tiger21 are all confirmations on the theme.

I suggest time and Consumer Reports do the rest.

Carmine D.

Quote from RAT on 05/02/06 at 5:49pm:

There's no need to nitpick nuances and word definitions.
I believe its clear that there are long term costs to owning Dysons just like any other vacuum. Furthermore, owners should expect to do basic maintenace like cleaning the dirt cup, removing hair from the brush roll, and occasionally cleaning filters to maintain suction.

If my sole criteria was to purchase a bagless vacuum that required minimal cleaning and replacement of filters, I would likely purchase either a Rainbow or a Dyson. If you tend to accumulate hair on the brush roll, the Dyson still may require frequent hair removal.

My preference would be to just buy a decent vacuum that uses bags for dirt disposal.

Carmine,
I know it tears you up that dyson's are not having product failures repaired at the higher than normal rate you claim, however to imply Rat's post is proof that Dyson have higher than normal failure and repair rates could be considered delesusional. Other than the fact that Rat and I would may have slightly different opinions on his last sentence, I would agree with all he said. Take a step back look at the facts and then make your conclusion as opposed to trying to pick a desired conclusion and see how you can bend the facts to it. Don't be in such a rush though and give others some time to respond to my post about claiming to be getting rich on dyson warranty and repairs.

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #98 - 05/03/06 at 5:25pm

Quote from JimB on 05/03/06 at 4:19pm:

Carmine,
I know it tears you up that dyson's are not having product failures repaired at the higher than normal rate you claim....

Again you are having reading and comprehension problems. Vacuuman made the claim, not me. In fact he made it twice and pedicted that if the rate of repairs and failures persisted as they were, he has serious doubts about the product and its longevity. Did you forget?

In fact Dual had no foresight at all in stockpiling dyson parts for future repairs. Tiger21 did it and said it first on the Forum trading over 70 dyson models and parting them out for future dyson repairs. Old-Timer is gearing up to do the same by waiting for parts suppliers to wholesale dyson replacement parts. Did I forget anyone?

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Re: I am sick of cleaning and replacing filters
Reply #99 - 05/03/06 at 5:48pm

Quote from JimB on 05/02/06 at 2:50pm:

Ok guys, Carmine apparentely feels your are all stating you are all getting rich on Dyson warranty and repairs I call it bunk as I know for a fact my sales and repair numbers for dyson and where I rank with them nationally, even though it remains a relativelly small portion of my business, who wants to debate facts?

If you don't want to state numbers publicly PM me. We probably have the same service contact at dyson and it should be simple to authenticate each others claims if we both tell him its ok.

Lets here a claim from one shop getting rich on dyson repairs. Being called out by some guy pushing Hoover fusions at Walmart while telling me he knows what is best and true for the current vacuum shop business is getting old so lets hear it. How about you Old-timer is Carmine speaking for you. Are you getting rich on Dyson warranty work.

Carmine you keep answering for other people trying divine meaning and intention from old posts. My post sounds quite clear and I am still waiting for someome to back your claim of getting rich on Dyson warranty's and repairs.

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