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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #650 - 07/26/06 at 7:28pm
 
Quote from C.H.R.I.S. on 07/10/06 at 10:12am:
The DC15 can't be a bomb if it's one of Amazon.com top selling upright vacuum cleaners.

 
Financial update status of amazon.com as of July 26.  The stock price fell today in market trading over $7.33 a share to $26+ ps on lower than expected quarterly earnings of 5 cents a share.  This is down from 12 cents a share for the same period last year.  
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/26/AR2006072600210.html
 
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Reply #651 - 07/28/06 at 9:09am
 
Dyson UK now offers all vacuums with a 5 year warranty. It would be nice if we will see this warranty in the US.
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Reply #652 - 07/28/06 at 7:54pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 07/26/06 at 7:28pm:
Quote from C.H.R.I.S. on 07/10/06 at 10:12am:
The DC15 can't be a bomb if it's one of Amazon.com top selling upright vacuum cleaners.


Financial update status of amazon.com as of July 26.  The stock price fell today in market trading over $7.33 a share to $26+ ps on lower than expected quarterly earnings of 5 cents a share.  This is down from 12 cents a share for the same period last year.  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/26/AR2006072600210.html

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Is this supposed to be deductive?
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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #653 - 07/29/06 at 4:04am
 
Quote from Legacy on 07/28/06 at 7:54pm:
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 07/26/06 at 7:28pm:
Quote from C.H.R.I.S. on 07/10/06 at 10:12am:
The DC15 can't be a bomb if it's one of Amazon.com top selling upright vacuum cleaners.


Financial update status of amazon.com as of July 26.  The stock price fell today in market trading over $7.33 a share to $26+ ps on lower than expected quarterly earnings of 5 cents a share.  This is down from 12 cents a share for the same period last year.  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/26/AR2006072600210.html

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Is this supposed to be deductive?

 
It's information about amazon.com and its latest financial developments and marketing strategy.  Inductive, deductive, productive, seductive, reductive, information is useful and beneficial as a knowledge base.  If you use it, how you use it, and the way you interpret it is up to you.  
 
If you are interested in knowing more about amazon.com's latest financial information and developments, the link is there for you to read.  If not, you can pass over and move on.  Your question is moot.   Smiley
 
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Reply #654 - 07/29/06 at 4:57am
 
All though I'm new to this forum, I have 25 + years in vacuum repair.
As far as Dyson offering a 5 year warranty in America is concerned, I wouldn't hold your breath.  
 
There is a difference between cleaning primarily bare floor and a few throw rugs,
in a small flat which are common in England,
Vs, wall to wall thick plush carpet, that exists in a majority of  American homes
that not only have more carpet in them, but are overall larger.
 
Now why should that make a difference?
 
In America a Dyson is going to be used more in a larger home, with thicker carpeting which creates more fuzz, that builds up in the brush-roll which not only lessens the life of the brush roll due to carpet fiber build up in the bearing ends,(the ends of the brush roll that houses the bearing which allow the brush roll to spin freely)
now the Dyson uses the same motor to run the brush roll, as it does to create suction, the extra resistance from the thicker carpet and extra carpet fuzz, will make the motor work harder, which makes it run hotter, which not only effects it's motor life but also heats up the plastic housing, which over time causes it to become brittle which then
leads to fracturing.
 
So unless they improve there design  they can't afford to offer a 5 year warranty.
 
 
 
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Reply #655 - 07/29/06 at 5:12am
 
If your trying to decide between the yellow model Dyson Vs, the Ball Dyson vacuum,
I have tested both on my suction gauge, and the yellow model which sales for less  
has more suction than it's heavier counter part.
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Reply #656 - 07/29/06 at 6:46pm
 
This Man has my respect, he knows his stuff.........
 
welcome to our club friend..........
 
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Reply #657 - 07/30/06 at 12:44pm
 
I would agree that he knows his stuff. He is certainly right about the suction. The DC07 has more suction than the DC14, which in turn has more suction than the DC15. Dyson reduced the size of the hose opening on the DC15 to compensate for the lower Airwatts on the DC15 so as to provie more air velocity. On the other hand the DC15 has a better brushroll, and a separate brushroll motor, so the DC15 will clean deep carpets better than a DC07. If you use the vacuum on commercial carpet, or primarily with tools, then I think the DC07 or DC14 is a better choice. I use some DC07s for commercial carpet and with tools, and they have worked well for me.
 
The one thing our new member may or may not know is that he's jumping into a long-standing debate, where some poster(s) would try to villify the Dyson as a horrible vacuum, and others believe it is the best vacuum. The truth is somewhere in between, in my opinion. Like any vacuum it has its strengths and weaknesses, and when used for the proper applications, it works well and performs reliably.
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Reply #658 - 07/30/06 at 2:01pm
 
Vac repair guy, thanks for your post - I'd not previously considered this angle on the US Dysons, that the machines could possibly be more prone to failure with the increase in carpet pile. As shown on their the website, Dyson's testing procedures are extensive, they have likely tested to simulate the average motor life on many different grades of carpet. It's likely one of the reasons that Dyson keeps the brushroll as it is, the other being that a more aggressive brushroll can cause noticable damage to a carpet over time. As I recall, Tom (Dual) meantioned a while back that Dyson have produced prototypes for the US with more aggressive bristles. Of course, you're unlikley to ever get any offical line from Dyson that some competitor's machines cause carpet wear.
 
I agree that the 5 year warranty is unlikely to be offered in the US for the moment.
This stratergy is surprising in a way, a lot of UK chain store retailers and their staff make money selling extended warranty policys at the time of purchase. However, the sweetener is the commisions for selling more of a higher-margin product. In way, very little changes, Dyson have always had a good history of correcting problems out of warranty, if it's shown to be a recognised design fault.
 
It's a positive move, to convince people that they stand behind the relibiity of their machines, whatever the missleading, sensational-driven press releases & editorials might say when reporting the UK consumer surveys.
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Reply #659 - 07/30/06 at 2:24pm
 
If it's true, as I expect, that more recent models have improved reliability over earlier ones, the 5 year warranty is an especially good idea. Consumers who have read "Which?" will consider the 5 year warranty to be worth much more than it will actually cost.
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