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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #640 - 03/18/06 at 6:11pm

Quote from justasking2 on 03/18/06 at 4:39pm:

OK, Carmine I will play your game. You claim to have inside hoover contacts so what is there next future product to be launched? What is the price point? What is the launch date? Can you offers some specific insights on the future product to share with the competition? You should be anxious to share. What do you and your contacts have to hide?

Seems just a bit silly doesn't it...

I am not a HOOVER insider. If I were I would answer your questions to the best of my knowledge without revealing confidential information. If my HOOVER contacts want to reveal inside information to others beside me they will tell me if I can do so and I would respect their wishes.

Let me rephrase my question for Matt mmc and Jim B and any dyson insiders who care to fend a straight forward question. It's been over a year since dyson pulled its canister from the US market. I would think dyson would be working extremely hard to get a new canister to the US market and the canadian market. After one year I would also think dyson is beyond the
R & D phase and should be ready to launch any day rather than a year from now. Am I correct or incorrect?

Or is dyson going in another path and trying to get its robotic suction vacuum to the USA before the canister? I think a UK poster suggested that if dyson didn't do so right now, it may miss the window of opportunity.

Any comments from the dyson insiders on the above?

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #641 - 03/19/06 at 2:22pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 03/18/06 at 6:11pm:

I am not a HOOVER insider. If I were I would answer your questions to the best of my knowledge without revealing confidential information. If my HOOVER contacts want to reveal inside information to others beside me they will tell me if I can do so and I would respect their wishes.

Let me rephrase my question for Matt mmc and Jim B and any dyson insiders who care to fend a straight forward question. It's been over a year since dyson pulled its canister from the US market. I would think dyson would be working extremely hard to get a new canister to the US market and the canadian market. After one year I would also think dyson is beyond the
R & D phase and should be ready to launch any day rather than a year from now. Am I correct or incorrect?

Or is dyson going in another path and trying to get its robotic suction vacuum to the USA before the canister? I think a UK poster suggested that if dyson didn't do so right now, it may miss the window of opportunity.

Any comments from the dyson insiders on the above?

Carmine D.

Remember the DC15 was in R&D for 3 years before it came out. Dyson is a company that really tries to research, test, and build its products thouroughly before a launch. Dyson would rather wait a little longer and get it right, as opposed to pushing the product out too soon without proper testing.........IT IS COMING THOUGH!! I don't have a timeframe for it or any other particulars.

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #642 - 03/19/06 at 3:37pm

Quote from mmc on 03/19/06 at 2:22pm:

Remember the DC15 was in R&D for 3 years before it came out. Dyson is a company that really tries to research, test, and build its products thouroughly before a launch. Dyson would rather wait a little longer and get it right, as opposed to pushing the product out too soon without proper testing.........IT IS COMING THOUGH!! I don't have a timeframe for it or any other particulars.

Thank you.

I hope the DC15 product pricing was a lesson learned. The DC11 was too much at $500 and of course as you said Matt for a number of reasons was not right for the USA market.

FWIW, a USA dyson canister that can compete with the likes of SEARS and others in the $400 range might be just the price market to re-enter. Then upgrade the canister with tools and features to a higher price to compete with Mieles and others.

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #643 - 03/19/06 at 4:15pm

I agree with this, I also thought the DC15 price was set a touch too high in it's early days. However, it is an established pricing strategy; set the initial early adaptor price a level you think the market will take and adjust afterwards. With the DC15, there was nothing else on the market with it's unique feature to act as a reference point. The alterative is to start low and increase the wholesale / retail price if / when it starts selling in volume, but that won't make you very popular with the retail buyers and consumers. You also take away the marketing opportunity that a 'was xxx.xx / now xxx.xx' offers.

It's not all about margins, it's also revenue. In certain markets, such as the UK, which has a high number of Dyson uprights still in service, the DC15 model with 'The Ball' feature is an further incentive to trade up and replace their current cleaner. Ultimately, canister or upright, it gives Dyson great PR as innovative company.

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C.H.R.I.S. Full Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 87	Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15) Reply #644 - 07/10/06 at 10:12am The DC15 can't be a bomb if it's one of Amazon.com top selling upright vacuum cleaners.
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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #645 - 07/20/06 at 9:44pm

I just wanted to let Carmine and the rest of the site users know that (Kenneth J.) was a Student of Industrial Design at Arizona State University, and won an award from the Arthritis foundation, when he invented the articulation patent for upright vacuum cleaner. Dyson sued me and I have the patent? Anyways I have not gone away...I have litigators and fine ones at that...and today I got my court date. September 6 at 10:00am in United States Federal court of appeals for the Federal circuit ( Dyson. Vs Weger). Dyson won a summery judgment motion saying that the word pair in my claim language requires items to be "separate" as spelled out by a twenty year old dictionary definition. I'm saying that the word pair is more encompassing- like the definition I used from a dictionary of the same date as the filing of my patent application...like a pair of pants, or glasses...ECT.

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #646 - 07/21/06 at 12:28am

Quote from Kenneth_J. on 07/20/06 at 9:44pm:

I just wanted to let Carmine and the rest of the site users know that (Kenneth J.) was a Student of Industrial Design at Arizona State University, and won an award from the Arthritis foundation, when he invented the articulation patent for upright vacuum cleaner. Dyson sued me and I have the patent? Anyways I have not gone away...I have litigators and fine ones at that...and today I got my court date. September 6 at 10:00am in United States Federal court of appeals for the Federal circuit ( Dyson. Vs Weger). Dyson won a summery judgment motion saying that the word pair in my claim language requires items to be "separate" as spelled out by a twenty year old dictionary definition. I'm saying that the word pair is more encompassing- like the definition I used from a dictionary of the same date as the filing of my patent application...like a pair of pants, or glasses...ECT.

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tiger21 Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 638	Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15) Reply #647 - 07/21/06 at 9:17am CHRIS, You make Amazon out to be an authority on how the country buys. Sorry no cigar. They are reporting only how things are there but no numbers. Show me the numbers please. I am told they are not selling good in Europe where they came from.
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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #648 - 07/23/06 at 4:36pm

Hi Tiger21, Dysons still trying to figure how to unload these on the canadians, Why not his canisters are suppose to be the best selling canisters ever in china and other countries.

I can say this because i dont work for or sell dyson.

b.t.w. when are they going to be opening up factory owned stores.

Have you heard about the buckeye, parts fiasco

regards..

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Carmine_Difazio Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5559	Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15) Reply #649 - 07/24/06 at 9:55am Hello OT: I've heard some buzz from several local vacuum store compadres about the replacement dyson clutch assemblies. Apparently some info given out at the last trade show turned out to be incorrect. Is this what you are referring too? Carmine D.
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