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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #600 - 03/14/06 at 9:03pm

Quote from RAT on 03/13/06 at 9:58pm:

Dual,

There's no reason to insult Carmine, just because his opinion of Dyson's is different from yours. Not everyone is as enthralled with bagless as you are.

In the only head to head tests for which results are commonly available, a leading consumer magazine did find in controlled tests that an Oreck with an empty bag will remove slightly more dirt from a test rug than a Dyson. While the Oreck's performance will degrade as the bag fills, at least initially it has better carpet cleaning performance.

This is the idiotic kind of logic that causes others to insult Carmine and anyone else who preaches it. All of the quoted tests in this forum are controlled and useless. The Oreck that I demoed would not out clean the Dyson under any circumstance. Of course I have no personal gain from being honest since I do not advertise for Oreck as the mags do.

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #601 - 03/14/06 at 9:18pm

Quote from Mike_W. on 03/14/06 at 5:07am:

What is so bad about these stores?

Did you not see my message in reply to bruce in this thread-
http://www.whatsthebest-vacuum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=wtb-vacuum;action=display;num=1139125260;start=172

I hear all of these comments about HOOVER vacuums being dumped at Big Lots. Now refurbished Dysons are there. As you have read earlier, someone else saw them there also. I have not seen refurbished DC15's, but we know in time.

Refurbished Dysons are showing up everywhere you turn.

There is nothing wrong with these stores nor most products that they sell. I am glad that they are there to provide vacuums and other products for those who can not pay a premium price.

I believe that all of the slurs are the result of a single moron who is nothing more than a forum troll.

Without him I doubt that you would have any slanerous posts against persons, products or stores.

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #602 - 03/14/06 at 9:25pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 03/14/06 at 12:56pm:

Look at the facts. Vacuum makers are not competing with bagless vacuums in the same range as dyson. They are much cheaper. Dirt Devil, VAX, EUREKA, etc. HOOVER has made the first attempt with the Z. Instead of ridiculing the HOOVER Z vacuum, I would think the dyson clan would be singing its praises. It actually is the first bagless model in the same price range as dyson. This gives credence to the dyson line. Having said that, I would also say as a crossover vacuum, upright and canister, it makes sense for the bagless feature on the HOOVER Z.

Carmine D.

Using your logic that Dyson out classes all others it seems that you would also sing praises to Dyson.
Why would we sing praises to the Z which is no competition regardless of price. The Z must stand for "ZONKED".

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #603 - 03/14/06 at 9:56pm

Quote from HARDSELL on 03/14/06 at 9:25pm:

Using your logic that Dyson out classes all others it seems that you would also sing praises to Dyson. Why would we sing praises to the Z which is no competition regardless of price. The Z must stand for "ZONKED".

Notice the letter Z is the last letter in the alphabet. With the hoover z, it stands for coming in last for performance.

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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #604 - 03/14/06 at 10:51pm

Quote from Mike_W. on 03/14/06 at 5:07am:

What is so bad about these stores?

Did you not see my message in reply to bruce in this thread-
http://www.whatsthebest-vacuum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=wtb-vacuum;action=display;num=1139125260;start=172

I hear all of these comments about HOOVER vacuums being dumped at Big Lots. Now refurbished Dysons are there. As you have read earlier, someone else saw them there also. I have not seen refurbished DC15's, but we know in time.

Refurbished Dysons are showing up everywhere you turn.

I have two Big Lots in my vicinity. I check these stores out around once a month for any unusual products such as vacuums. To date I have never seen a single hoover or Dyson for sale in either of these stores. It would be a great place to sell repacks for the consumers on a limited budget.

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Carmine_Difazio Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5559	Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15) Reply #605 - 03/15/06 at 3:48am I thought this thread was about the Ball and the "Zen" was another thread. Carmine D.
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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #606 - 03/15/06 at 7:00am

Quote from HARDSELL on 03/14/06 at 9:03pm:

This is the idiotic kind of logic that causes others to insult Carmine and anyone else who preaches it. All of the quoted tests in this forum are controlled and useless. The Oreck that I demoed would not out clean the Dyson under any circumstance. Of course I have no personal gain from being honest since I do not advertise for Oreck as the mags do.

Did you share your test procedures with Consumer Reports? Oreck always manages to do as well if not better then dyson in rug performance especially by independent labs.

As others pointed out more cogently than me, the Oreck's lightweigt and quick and easy use makes it amenable to daily vacuuming. No bin to dump and 8 pounds vice 18 of vacuum to move around. Plus Oreck gives the user an industry standard brush roll that cleans and grooms carpetting well. AND a headlamp.

Most women of any age would pull out the Oreck upright vice the dyson Ball anytime for carpet use. And be just as pleased if not more so with the results. That's one of the reasons Orecks have been in the industry for over 40 years. Customer satisfaction.

Carmine D.

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JimB Senior Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 391	Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15) Reply #607 - 03/15/06 at 7:47am Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 03/15/06 at 7:00am: Oreck always manages to do as well if not better then dyson in rug performance especially by independent labs. Carmine D. Can you name one independent labratory that I can reference this on?
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Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15)
Reply #608 - 03/15/06 at 7:47am

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 03/15/06 at 7:00am:

Did you share your test procedures with Consumer Reports? Oreck always manages to do as well if not better then dyson in rug performance especially by independent labs.

As others pointed out more cogently than me, the Oreck's lightweigt and quick and easy use makes it amenable to daily vacuuming. No bin to dump and 8 pounds vice 18 of vacuum to move around. Plus Oreck gives the user an industry standard brush roll that cleans and grooms carpetting well. AND a headlamp.

Most women of any age would pull out the Oreck upright vice the dyson Ball anytime for carpet use. And be just as pleased if not more so with the results. That's one of the reasons Orecks have been in the industry for over 40 years. Customer satisfaction.

Carmine D.

And many women are happy living with idiots because they have grown accustomed to them. My wife prefers the best. She has me and the Dyson

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Carmine_Difazio Ultimate Member I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5559	Re: Dyson's The Ball (DC15) Reply #609 - 03/15/06 at 8:06am Quote from HARDSELL on 03/15/06 at 7:47am: And many women are happy living with idiots because they have grown accustomed to them. My wife prefers the best. She has me and the Dyson Which is the best: you or the dyson? Carmine D.
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