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Another New Cyclonic Upright (Read 7639 times)
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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #90 -
11/01/06 at 9:02pm
I'm surprised you folks have yet to mention the new Bissell Healthy Home upright being a viable competitor to the Dyson range. Best Buy now has them for $299, and from what I saw in person, it is a pretty strong competitor, if not, a solid alternative to the DC07 and DC14. As being essentially a rebadged Samsung, it is of very high build quality, with an effective emulation of Dyson Root Cyclone technology, as well as many other features that make this upright a value leader in the segment. If LG is the first company to effectively duplicate Root Cyclone technology, then Samsung/Bissell is certainly the second. With all of the filth I picked up off the carpet in the aisle way, no dust was seen on the prefilter.
However, that may differ from actual in-home use. But with a dual motor system, a competent brushroll, one touch emptying, and an on-board turbobrush, I see the Bissell being a more worthy competitor than the Infinity, although they deserve credit for launching a good offering for its price segment, even if the cyclonic system is not as efficient. However, there is a big drawback for the Bissell, for it is a porker. Tipping the scales at 24.5 lbs, it is no lightweight, but the large rear wheels made it easier to maneuver for its weight. Now I'm waiting to see how the new Eureka machine will turn out to be when it comes out.
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11/01/06 at 9:29pm
Just hitting the market at the BEST BUY stores' venue and already discounted $50 from MSRP.
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11/02/06 at 4:45am
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I'm surprised you folks have yet to mention the new Bissell Healthy Home upright being a viable competitor to the Dyson range.
The Bissells came out about Friday. I have to say that I am amazed at this machine(Healthy Home). When you first lift the vacuum by the carrying handle, you notice that it feels more durable. The Healthy Home feels "solid". This China-built upright cleans very well. I was surprised to see that it even picked up debris from the sides of the head.
The two switches for power and brushroll power on/off at the fingertips is a real plus. The hose and cord are also very long which is another plus.
The vacuum is on the heavy side, but that is do to the cyclone dirt chamber and the brushroll motor.
Bissell and Samsung have their own patented features on this machine as well as some others.
The vacuum filtered well. There was a slight dusting of the black premotor filter, but this can be rinsed out occasionally. I do think that the filter should have been designed differently-larger. I also would have liked seeing a washable final filter on this vacuum cleaner.
For this price, it will be a big seller for those who cannot or will not purchase a $400 vacuum cleaner. They will still get very good results. The price will drop after the introductory period and there will be sales, so this will be even more appealing.
Now, as for the Bissell Momentum, that is a different story from the Healthy Home. The Momentum looks and feels "cheap". The "bagless feature" is not that great. It uses a flat barrier to try keeping the dirt from rising up.
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11/02/06 at 10:53am
Does the new Bissell have soft or hard brushes in the brushroll? How about noise levels? Our BestBuy doesn't have them yet but will check 'em out once they do.
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11/02/06 at 11:14am
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Does the new Bissell have soft or hard brushes in the brushroll? How about noise levels? Our BestBuy doesn't have them yet but will check 'em out once they do.
The bristles are neither hard or soft; they are in between. They seemed to be somewhat flexible to the touch, due to the fact that the bristles are not as thick, and are not as packed as tightly together as on other brushrolls.
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11/02/06 at 4:18pm
Quote from Inmate Number 2
on 11/02/06 at 11:14am:
Quote from VacOMatic
on 11/02/06 at 10:53am:
Does the new Bissell have soft or hard brushes in the brushroll? How about noise levels? Our BestBuy doesn't have them yet but will check 'em out once they do.
The bristles are niether hard or soft; they are in between. They seemed to be somewhat flexible to the touch, due to the fact that the bristles are not as thick, and are not as packed as tightly together as on other brushrolls.
I have to disagree. The bristle strips are very stiff. They are stiff like the new dyson and Infinity uprights, which are stiffer than HOOVER and Eureka. HOOVER and Eureka also use longer bristles. Bissell's stiff bristles are not a new thing, since they are on their previous models. If they were longer, like Eureka's SmartVac, they would be more flexible.
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11/02/06 at 4:27pm
The Samsung looks like a good unit. My guess is that if LG can get the multi-cyclone design to work right, Samsung can, too. I would be more tempted to try this unit that the Euro-pro.
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At $300 now and potentially less in the future, the BISSELL Healthy Home appears to be a solid competitor for the highest priced bagless PLUS offers a 7 position rug height adjustment (vice none on the highest priced brand) and a headlight (vice none) and a turbo tool on board (vice none).
With a sealed HEPA filter, microban protection, and lifetime belt, the BISSELL has all the current industry's bells and whistles. Looks and sounds pretty good for the money. Not to mention that Samsung is performing exceedingly well financially and operationally WRT to appliances and electronics worldwide. I'm not surprised it would partner with BISSELL to bring this model to market. BISSELL has a presence in just about every big box retailer in the USA. And the name is widely recognizable in the industry, probably as well as HOOVER, EUREKA, ROYAL and ELECTROLUX.
Anyone know the warranty coverage on the BISSELL Healthy Home? (BTW, excellent name IMHO). A clean home is a healthy home!
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11/02/06 at 7:22pm
According to the BISSELL web site, the Healthy Home has a 2 year warranty just as the DC07 Original at Wal*Mart for $379. With 8 cyclones, just like the DC07, and a host of features that the dyson DC07 model (and even the newer dyson models lack including a brush roll more fitted to USA carpets), and the lower price, the HEALTHY HOME gets the selling edge IMHO.
The DC07 models at $399 plus are going to come under fierce competition by all the big box retailers who carry the Healthy Home. Maybe that's the reason that most retailers recently including SEARS have had the DC07 models advertised for sale. In anticipation of the BISSELL's Healthy Home launch.
"A clean home is a Healthy Home."
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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
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11/02/06 at 8:06pm
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Hello CPro:
FWIW the Euro-Pro Infinity Shark uprights come with a 2 YEAR UNCONDITIONAL PRODUCT WARRANTY. I'm not a fan of bagless vacuums but I have respect and admiration for a brand that goes head to head with the highest priced big box bagless brand at half the price. And has the features and performance to match if not exceed it. The big box retailers do too. Including the retailer that convinced the highest priced bagless brand to launch its line in the USA in 2002 and provided the store venue to do so.
WRT big box retailers, take a look at Target stores. Warren Buffett, the oracle of Omaha, just made a $270 MILLION investment in its stock.
Carmine D.
To date the imitators that have gone head to head with the highest priced bagless have not performed as well. This includes one of the most known names in the industry.
Maybe there is a reason for the high price. Performance and quality in one package doesn't come cheap.
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