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Mike_W. Moderator HERE TO HELP! Posts: 1318	Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright Reply #60 - 10/18/06 at 4:45am Well, we had eight days.
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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #61 - 10/18/06 at 7:55am

What's next? A thesis on the inventer of cyclonic suction vacuums in the USA: Eureka vice dyson? Wink

I'm visiting a grand opening of a Wal*Mart Supercenter in N. Las Vegas this morning. A visit to the vacuum cleaners is in order. My sense is that the bagless vacuums for sale are Eureka, Dirt Devil, Bissell and HOOVER in the $100-$200 price range. Of course the Wal*Mart vacuum staple in bagged vacuums is the ELECTROLUX Eureka GE canister which is sold exclusively at Wal*Mart stores and has been since 2000. At $150 retail price the sales of the GE cann are always brisk fueled in large part by consistent high ratings for the Electrolux Eureka GE cann from Consumer Reports.

There was some buzz that dyson and Wal*Mart mended ways and dyson vacuums would be back on all the Wal*Mart shelves after an 18 month hiatus. Maybe it will be there too? Who knows? I'll have to check it out.

ONE MILLION shoppers visit Wal*Mart stores every day (before the recent Wal*Mart expansion in China). 30 MILLION people every month. That's a huge number of US shoppers on a yearly basis.

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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #62 - 10/18/06 at 9:47am

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 10/18/06 at 7:55am:

What's next? A thesis on the inventer of cyclonic suction vacuums in the USA: Eureka vice dyson? ;)

There was some buzz that dyson and Wal*Mart mended ways and dyson vacuums would be back on all the Wal*Mart shelves after an 18 month hiatus. Maybe it will be there too? Who knows? I'll have to check it out.

Carmine D.

Carmine,

It is already in our Wal-Marts here in Jersey -

Color: Teal Blue/Silver -
Name: "Dyson DC-07 Original"
Brush Control Knob
14ft hose and not 17ft as in Yellow DC-07 -
2 year warranty and not 5 years
$379.99

Other then the hose and warranty, it is the same as all the other DC-07's

PS - here is the warranty verbiage from the Dyson USA website:

"The following new Dyson vacuums purchased after August 14, 2006 receive a 5 year limited warranty:
DC07 All Floors
DC07 Low Reach
DC07 Animal
DC07 Full Gear
DC07 Pink
DC07 Full Kit
DC14 All Floors
DC14 Low Reach
DC14 Animal
DC14 Complete
DC14 Full Access
DC14 Total Clean
DC14 Full Kit
DC14 Full Gear
DC14 Drive
DC15 All floors
DC15 Animal
DC15 Total Clean
DC15 Full Kit

The following Dyson models have a 2 year limited warranty:
DC07 Original
Dyson Root6™:
All Dyson products purchased before 14th August 2006

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Dan P.

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planethoover Junior Member Posts: 40	Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright Reply #63 - 10/18/06 at 12:50pm If my long post annoyed anyone, I humbly apologize. Calling all Dyson fanatics: Doesn't WalMart sometimes pressure its suppliers to "cheapen" their products? I know they've done this with lawnmowers.... In a Dyson versus WalMart showdown, who plays the quarterback, and who's the cheerleader?
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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #64 - 10/18/06 at 1:20pm

Quote from planethoover on 10/18/06 at 12:50pm:

If my long post annoyed anyone, I humbly apologize.

Calling all Dyson fanatics: Doesn't WalMart sometimes pressure its suppliers to "cheapen" their products? I know they've done this with lawnmowers....

In a Dyson versus WalMart showdown, who plays the quarterback, and who's the cheerleader? Wink

Don't worry Planethoover although I do not personally agree with every thought in your "long" post it was probably one of the most thought out and spin-free here on that subject for some time. As for Dyson and Walmart, the talk is it was a rather unique resolution with a Dyson board member who used to run Walmarts european business working out the two company heads spending some time together at one of their homes resulting in the new agreement. The new walmart floorcare buyer is likely to respect dyson advertising guidelines even regarding price.

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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #65 - 10/18/06 at 5:21pm

Quote from planethoover on 10/18/06 at 12:50pm:

If my long post annoyed anyone, I humbly apologize.

Calling all Dyson fanatics: Doesn't WalMart sometimes pressure its suppliers to "cheapen" their products? I know they've done this with lawnmowers....

In a Dyson versus WalMart showdown, who plays the quarterback, and who's the cheerleader? Wink

Wal*Mart has over 61,000 US suppliers. And negotiates different agreements with each vendor. Most common problem is that the suppliers' products will not sell at the agreed upon prices and arrangements must be made to handle the unsold stock. Usually by reducing the prices of the products for sale and/or Wal*Mart returning the products to the suppliers who take the financial loss. Wal*Mart provides its suppliers a course of action and chain of command from the local buyer right up to the open door of the CEO if necessary to resolve any and all agreement disputes with its suppliers.

When Sam Walton was still alive he would tell Wal*Mart suppliers: "If you believe in a point, scream it as loud as you can to whomever will listen to you." And it was understood that if you had to speak your mind, you have to say it nicely.

Wal*Mart believes its suppliers are "partners." Many suppliers have been in business with Wal*Mart for over 20 years.

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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #66 - 10/18/06 at 8:07pm

In a twist of advertising irony two TV commercials appeared back to back about mid way through the Oprah Show. The first was the DC14 TV commercial followed immediately by a Wal*Mart commercial. The DC14 ad has been talked about on the Forum. The Wal*Mart ad goes: No number is safe from rollback. Wal*Mart is reducing prices on over 10,000 of your favorite items.

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Dyson DC18 Senior Member Dyson DC18 Coming Soon Posts: 224	Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright Reply #67 - 10/18/06 at 8:15pm Carmine, I saw the UK commercial on Dyson UK website. It's very similar to the one here but I think there's a little better. http://www.dyson.co.uk/media/streaming.asp?menu=DYSON%2FADS&video=Clogging
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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #68 - 10/18/06 at 11:07pm

Chris:

Thanks. I viewed all the dyson commercials. It appears the US version for the "clogging" TV ad uses a less distinctive English accent than the UK version. I'd say both are about the same from my perspective save the accent.

Onto dyson and Wal*Mart:

How do the dyson followers and fans who down played the long absence of dyson at Wal*Mart with "Wally World" references feel now that dyson is back in Wal*Mart stores? Good and/or bad?

Dyson markets (or at least tries) its vacuums as "premium" which isn't congruent with Wal*Mart's retail forte "lowest prices" all the time. (Based on comments received from some pro-dyson posters on the Forum.)

Wal*Mart has successfully added high end electronics like plasma TV's to its sales venue. However, the success is due in large part to the fact that the Wal*Mart retail prices of these electronics are also lower than BEST BUY and Circuit City.

How do dyson customers who pay $500 and more for their dyson purchases feel when they see Wal*Mart dysons for $379 (and probably less in time, say $320). Do they still think its a "premium" vacuum brand? Or do they think they overpaid?

Dyson is walking a tight rope once again. It fell once already after less than one year. Does it have a safety net this time around?

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Re: Another New Cyclonic Upright
Reply #69 - 10/19/06 at 3:35pm

Hey Carmine,
I think Walmarts strategy of going after more high end product like plasma tv's is a great move for them. I am sure dyson is ecstatic to be back in Walmart and in front of those 1 million consumer a day. Personally I will wait and see the effects on business. The product is differentiated with less features to affect the lower price, but I will have to wait to see how upselling from those looking at this model will go. I am however encouraged that dyson has already shown they will walk away from Walmart business if needed.

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