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Dyson Videos/Articles - for Dyson HATERS only (Read 4656 times)
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Reply #110 - 04/19/07 at 12:12pm
 
Hello Carl:
 
I suppose that where you stand depends on where you sit.
 
You like dysons and defend them, as does JimB (who also sells them and brags of the profit) and HARDSELL.  Obvously any thread that is for Dyson Haters offends you and them.  So the subject name is a warning to you and them if you are sensitive to dyson criticism.   
 
Having been "sucked" into a new dyson DC07 pink purchase (which is what this thread is about) and extremely dissatified with the results, I choose to make my personal and professional concerns about the products and company known.  Just as you, JimB and HS make known your satisfaction and pleasure.  Read and/or don't read.  It's your right just as it is mine.  And I believe there is another thread on the Forum devoted especially to people like you who hold dyson in high esteem.
 
Hopefully, Forum readers get a well-balanced perspective of the dyson products, if they are interested in buying.  Thanks to all who share their views.
 
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Reply #111 - 04/19/07 at 12:50pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/19/07 at 12:12pm:


Having been "sucked" into a new dyson DC07 pink purchase (which is what this thread is about) and extremely dissatified with the results, I choose to make my personal and professional concerns about the products and company known.  
Carmine D.  

 
Come on what is so tough about staying honest.  Your thoughts and criticisms on dyson were posted daily for years before this purchase.  To act surprised that your findings after being "sucked" into purchasing this machine were the exact same as opinions you had been claiming as facts for years and to imply you only started criticizing it after that purchase is at best disnengenuous at perhaps downright dishonest.   The Dyson hater thread doesn't offend me it actually cracked me up when I first saw it posted as a response to the other.  However, you are a bright guy who knows a ton about the industry who obviously wants to make dyson look bad, it says alot when you have to resort to making stuff up (as jokes of course).
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Reply #112 - 04/19/07 at 1:19pm
 
Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/19/07 at 12:12pm:

You like dysons and defend them, as does JimB (who also sells them and brags of the profit) and HARDSELL. Obvously any thread that is for Dyson Haters offends you and them. So the subject name is a warning to you and them if you are sensitive to dyson criticism.

Regarding my attitude towards Dysons in general, I am neither a lover nor hater. I am a satisfied owner of a specific model of Dyson (DC07), used for a specific purpose (vacuuming low pile commercial carpet, and for tool work), and I am satisfied with my choice for that specific purpose. To generalize beyond that would be inappropriate, and I don't believe that any one vacuum is right for anyone.  I also recognize that among the various Dyson models, there are some vacuums that  are deserving of criticism. For example, the DC16 has received many unfavorable reviews on Epinions for its 5 minute battery life, The DC17 has recieved some for having a too-aggressive brushroll.  
 
It is true that I respond from time to time when information I know to be incorrect is posted. I try not to be judgemental as to whether the incorrect information is being posted in error or with the deliberate intent to mislead, but rather simply try to post what I believe to be correct.  I have no quarrel with someone who posts bone fide information that may be unfavorable. For example, when OT posted his comments regarding his tear-down, I said it was a fair analysis, and suggested that he might find a further problem if he examined the base-plate rollers, which tend to stick, and I suggested that the clogged cyclones were probably a logical result of the failure to clean the premotor filter.
 
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Reply #113 - 04/19/07 at 1:53pm
 
I agree with the DC16 shortcomings of a 5 minute charge and high sticker price.  I posted that criticism on this Forum under the DC16 thread much to the chagrin of several dyson lovers who contradicted me.  It's not surprising that 9 months later consumers criticize the run time too (they got sucked in).  
 
At the price, $149, it is so laughable it is sad that dyson actually brought it to market.  Why?  I posted the reason before when dyson Chris mentioned that it was one of amazon's best sellers.  I'll repost here again.  Many consumers are very reluctant to plunk down $500 plus for a vacuum from a big box store.  So they tried out the DC16 at $149 (chump change) to see if it is worth it.   My sense is their disappointments with the DC16 performance will turn them off from the higher priced dyson models.  That's human nature.  You get one shot to win over an undecided  buyer's confidence with your brand name and product.  If you lose, you're out.  I guess the burned DC16 buyers can always use them as paper weights, conversational items, and door stops.
 
I recall when HSN did the DC16 TV sale.  It took no less than 5 new dyson DC16 hand held vacuums to promo and demo on TV.  Why?  Because of the short 5 minute run time.  In fact, one of the models didn't have enough of a charge to make it through the demo.  Shocked
 
I have heard the "too aggressive" criticism comments of the DC17 brushroll.  And at least one major US rug manufacturer voids its warranty if any dyson product is used on its wool carpets.  Did I mention I have Mohawk wool carpets in my new home?
 
Ironic that dyson was criticized for having too wimpy brushbars for years on the DC07 and DC14.  Then took the opposite tact and went to other extreme.  Why?  Amateurish vacuum engineers?
 
For such a high retail price ($569) the dyson DC17 Absolute Animal should offer several brush styles to meet consumers' needs and wants.  Or provide special order vacuums (with the desired brush roll style) and customer attachments.  Then dyson could justify its high retail vacuum prices and satisfy more vacuum buyers.
 
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Reply #114 - 04/19/07 at 3:46pm
 
Hi Guys,i was just thinking maybe some type of coating could be used on the inside and outside of the cyclones to repel the dirt,such as something like teflon or some other substance that would repel the dirt build up.
I am sure that stuff like this has already been tested,if so anyone have any other ideas.
Just trying to build a better mousetrap,you know how us racers are always looking for the next level, to go faster or quicker. Or trying to make the vacuum cleaner just that much better than the rest............
 
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Reply #115 - 04/19/07 at 8:02pm
 
Quote from old-timer on 04/19/07 at 3:46pm:
Hi Guys,i was just thinking maybe some type of coating could be used on the inside and outside of the cyclones to repel the dirt,such as something like teflon or some other substance that would repel the dirt build up.
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Hello OT:
 
You're thinking of Microban antimicrobial protection which inhibits the growth of odor and stain causing bacteria, mold and mildew inside the machine.  Currently used by BISSELL, ORECK, and HOOVER.  And in other applications like food carts and seats.  
 
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Reply #116 - 04/19/07 at 9:25pm
 
Now I am getting it.  Microban as a anti-stick surface like teflon as opposed to a anti microbial surface.  Though you could punk the board again?
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Reply #117 - 04/19/07 at 10:24pm
 
Talking about the dyson DC16 root 6 technology hand held:  
 
Anybody know why dyson doesn't provide the actual run time on a charge in it's DC16 product literature?  Am I the only person who thinks this is an important factual detail to include for a rechargeable vacuum's performance?  
 
How could dyson overlook it?  Just oversight and/or intentional?  I'll have to check the specs on the dyson Web site and see what it says.
 
I guess for $149 (chump change), what can you expect?  Maybe it's even less than 5 minutes?  Come to think of it, when I timed the HSN demo, it was just about 3 minutes when the dyson died.  
 
Then again, dyson started printing it's product literature in Spanish and English.  Since I don't know Spanish (yet) maybe it's the run time is there (in Spanish and not English) and I can't read it.   Sad
 
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Reply #118 - 04/19/07 at 10:37pm
 
Nope, no run time on the USA dyson Web site for the DC16.  
 
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Reply #119 - 04/20/07 at 9:46am
 
I suspect the run time is variable, and it may depend on temperature, battery life, and other conditions.  Personally, I would have preferred a corded electric powered hand held with the option to insert a battery for $150.
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