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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #200 - 04/21/07 at 11:38pm

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/21/07 at 11:29pm:

Hello Dan:

If you're referring to steps 6 and 7 then one hose end pulls off (6) and the other hose ends unwinds. This suggests to me that one side is a pressure fit and other threads on. While the hose may thread into the cuff, the cuff fits on the machine by pressure.

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

I would agree that the valve body side of the hose connection is some type of pressure fit or snap type of cuff that is threaded onto the hose...

Dan

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #201 - 04/21/07 at 11:53pm

I prefer to say that the hose is threaded into the cuff and the cuff is pushed onto the vacuum. Pressure on--pressure off. Since there is no clamp fastening either hose side (with and without the cuff) securely to the vacuum with screws, over time and with use the cuff and uncuffed end stretches, opens, comes loose and pulls off. Not worthy to be a $400 priced vacuum. IMHO.

As I said, the quality of the dirt by pass hoses in the DC18 and DC21 is no better than the DC07. $469 and $499 vacuums respectively. IMHO not worth the prices. And priced in a range that competes with the best quality vacuum brands sold at the indy's like Miele, SEBO, RICCAR/Simplicity, Aerus and Bosch. Tough indy competition for a vacuum name brand (dyson) that has become synonymous with big box stores and exorbitant prices and profits. Big box stores want to sell new vacuums to people every year, not every 10-20 years (like the indy's).

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #202 - 04/22/07 at 12:34am

Quote from cprohman on 04/21/07 at 7:56pm:

The bottom line is that CR hasn't seen any unusual repair issues on these, and the latter model Dysons have also done fine in the Which? surveys.

Carl:

Let's stay honest and sincere and not get carried away with your enthusiasm.

Consumer Reports has not officially reported on dyson vacuums' reliability yet. It tentatively said (not definitively) that it has not found anything unusual to report after 2 years. CR made this observation when dyson vacuums still had a 2 year limited warranty. Dysons now come with a 5 year limited warranty, except for the DC07 Original at Wal*Mart which still is 2 years despite a $378 MSRP and the DC16 hand held for $149 which has a 2 year warranty.

And Which? reports said there are hopeful signs of dyson reliability (tentative not definitive) for future years FOR ITS UPRIGHTS. Dyson cylinders (canisters) and uprights are and have been at the bottom of the totem pole (THE WORSE) for vacuum reliability according to Which? reports for the last 8 consecutive years. That's an ignominious product performance record that would have had any USA publicly held company's CEO canned years ago. Especially in light of the DC11 and DC16. Add the contrarotating washer and you have the laughing stock of Wall Street along with the firing.

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #203 - 04/22/07 at 8:06am

Medium pile and thick pile carpets and never had a problem with the dirt path hose on my DC07! Use it once a week for big clean and once to twice in the week for a quick clean around! No pets! Wish Dyson would put metal soleplates on ALL uprights not just on the DC15!

The dirt path hose on the DC07 (same probably for the DC04, DC14) is threaded onto the cleaning head and clicked into to connect to the main part of the cleaner!

Suppose Dyson could of used the same hose on the dirt path as used for the main above floor cleaning hose (as they did on the DC15) but there must of been a reason for this!! I can only think the reason it was different on the DC15 as it was in view, on the outside.

One think I have noticed is the dirt path hose on the DC18 is more flexible (softer) than the ones used on the DC04, DC07 and DC14!

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #204 - 04/22/07 at 8:16am

Hello JD:

The reasons for the dbh are "cheap" and "amatuerish" vacuum engineers. Any one of us on the Forum could have done better (than the 500 dyson engineers). Save Carl who is an engineer. Wink

No pets: Piece of cake. Don't get all the pet hair stuck around the by-pass hose and inside the hose (static electricity). And no pet hair wrap to cut off the brushbar.

BTW, ever get the infamous dyson ratcheting noise on the medium to high pile carpets in the last 5 years? And rug wrap on the brushbar? Were the rugs new when you started "hoovering" with the DC07?

I vacuum every day (sometimes more than once daily) rugs and floors. I have medium pile wool Mohawk and ceramic tiles. Have to vacuum daily. English lab sheds alot of hair. And new wool rugs.

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #205 - 04/22/07 at 8:45am

Hello Carmine

My personal view is the dirt path is fine, from my own experience and family and friends experience no issues have been had! Well not yet! Then here in the UK other vacuum cleaners 'look' and 'feel' cheap and nothing like models of yesterday year, of the 70, 80 and early 90's!!

No pets but humans shed skin and hair onto floors. So if someone has long hair it does occasionally get wrapped around the brush bar. So occassional I've had to remove some hair! Saying that though we have had Hoovers (Juniors and Turbopower) and Electrolux (Airstream) and the brush bars on them had to be cleaned down.

My DC07 has been used for 2 years or so at my parents house both new and older carpets. Since we started using Dyson vacs the piles do get lifted, probably not so much on older carpet as the ware on the pile. But still is noticable. All my flooring is new in my apartment and the DC07 does a excellent job!

Never had the 'ratcheting' noise go off on my DC07 (nor my DC03, DC04) only when we have by accident vacuumed the duster up! Carperts never affected it !

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #206 - 04/22/07 at 9:12am

Thanks JD.

I have 2 grand daughters too (3 yo and 7 months) that visit every day. And the dust from the desert. And the shedding lab. Have to vacuum everyday in every way. HOOVER WT Supreme is the best so far. By far beat out the DC07 pink which always gave me the ratcheting noise in part because the nozzle fell deep into my medium pile wool carpets, which snagged the dirt by pass hose.

Looking forward to the ORECK XL to compare with the HOOVER WT. Should be arriving any day soon.

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #207 - 04/22/07 at 9:20am

One thing that I think was said on this thread is the new combi tool on the DC18 mainly the brush part was not very good and not big.

I've used my parents and found quite useful and upto the job. You can buy the normal size to fit onto the end of the hose/wand. The combi tool brush is very similuar to the original small one on the DC01. The smaller brush is better for getting into tighter/smaller places!

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #208 - 04/22/07 at 10:25am

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/22/07 at 12:34am:

.... That's an ignominious product performance record that would have had any USA publicly held company's CEO canned years ago. Especially in light of the DC11 and DC16. Add the contrarotating washer and you have the laughing stock of Wall Street along with the firing.

You've made this same observation probably 10 times that I've seen, and who knows how many times that I haven't seen. Repeating it, however, doesn't make it true. With any CEO, you would measure the overall performance. What is Dyson's record with regard to market penetration? Profitability? By your measure, why hasn't the CEO of Google been sacked? They have tried to diversify into numerous spin-off products, and virtually all of those efforts have been failures. The answer is that the CEO doesn't get fired because the overall company performance is good.

I suspect that Dyson is very profitable, and in fact, probably the most profitable vacuum company in the world. If Dyson should be fired, what about the CEOs of all the less profitable vacuum companies? Shouldn't they all get canned, too?

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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #209 - 04/22/07 at 10:37am

Quote from Carmine_Difazio on 04/22/07 at 12:34am:

Let's stay honest and sincere and not get carried away with your enthusiasm.

I agree that some honesty and sincerity would be good. You attack the Dyson company products in vitually every post you make here, and when you aren't attacking the products, you attack the man personally. If, as you claim, these are unimportant niche products, why do you talk about them so often? Are you consumed by some form of personal hatred?

My "enthusiasm" as you call it, is simply confined to occasionally correcting dis-information posted here. If people stuck to being "honest and sincere", I wouldn't have much to say.

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