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Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner (Read 10600 times)
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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #180 -
04/18/07 at 8:01am
Hello Carl:
Time will tell. Consumer Reports' lowering of the ratings and rankings of dyson vacuums from year to year does not bode well for the top priced bagless brand import. In concert with CR's inclination to impugn overpriced, false claims, and "fad"products (like the Ionic Breeze).
I will be interested to see whether and how Consumer Reports addresses the rug warranty void by one major wool carpet manufacturer in California. I can attest firsthand to dyson's shortcomings on my Mohawk wool carpets based on my own personal usage. The DC07 pink was worthless and useless on my wool carpets despite written dyson claims on the carton and product literature to the contrary (which dyson has since eliminated and/or toned down).
I'll see how the Oreck XL does in comparison on my wool carpets. My sense is that my dear Wife will enjoy using it on the ceramic tiles, wool carpets and throw rugs and the XL will perform like a winner. For $149, it was an offer I could not refuse (for my Wife's sake and the good of the marriage).
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04/18/07 at 11:37am
I'll see how the Oreck XL does in comparison on my wool carpets. My sense is that my dear Wife will enjoy using it on the ceramic tiles, wool carpets and throw rugs and the XL will perform like a winner. For $149, it was an offer I could not refuse (for my Wife's sake and the good of the marriage).
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Hey Carmine,at that price you should be jailed for robbery.
were you wearing a mask and carry a gun?
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04/18/07 at 12:14pm
Hello OT:
No, just a proud owner of an English lab and member of the Humane Society of the US. Qualifies me and others for the lower Oreck XL price.
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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #183 -
04/20/07 at 4:01am
Hello Carmine
Although the hose and dirt path hose may be subject to wear and tear they are still covered in the 5 year warranty! The same could be said for the wand as you are using it for above floor cleaning but I've had a new one of them before under warranty! Had a new soleplate,you could say that wear and tear!
I would say the dirt path on the DC15 is no better than the DC18 as it is exposed! I've seen a few where the hose has been knocked off and the clip broken off. One thing I found is it gets in the way when cleaning along skirting boards etc... Hence why they changed it on the DC18 Slim.
To be honest I've never had any problems with the hose or the dirt path hose on any of my Dyson's!! I don't know what people do with them!
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04/20/07 at 7:49am
Hello JD:
Thanks for the follow up posts. Covering "wear and tear" parts under a limited warranty (especially 5 years limited) sounds out of the ordinary. Save for unconditional warranties. Exceptions to the rule on wear and tear parts are sometimes allowed depending on the facts and circumstances. On a case by case bases.
I explained before having bought a HOOVER Floor Mate in August 2006 (Model 3060) and the next day cracking the nozzle. My fault. HOOVER covered the part and free shipping (which I suspect is about $25-35 plus shipping) under warranty. It was not under warranty. The customer service rep granted some latitude in the coverage. It was clearly a crack caused by me the
user.
The dirt by-pass hoses on the DC07 are flimsy and proned to coming off easily during use. Because of its under machine position and exposure, it snags on the floors and rugs causing it to come off.
I like the durability and extra strength of the DC15 dirt path hose (and wider diameter). I don't like the side mount for the reason you mentioned. Strange how dyson waffles back and forth with the size and positioning of the dirt path hose. Almost like the vacuum is still in a "prototype mode." I call it a "work-in-process." Never completed. Did the same with the cyclone design. I would think after 5174 tries once dyson settled in on a dirt and air direction, it stick with it. Nope. Doesn't make sense to me.
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04/20/07 at 9:21am
By pass designs, anyway's the first one available to the general public[on an upright].was the hoover dial-a-matic,i can recalling the industry pro's condeming this set up,the biggest ,most logical reason was the way the airflow,dirtpath system was set up,too many angles. IT picked up better on the right hand side of the cleaner,[LOOKING AT IT FROM THE HANDLE DOWN]
,while the dial was not well recieved by the indy's,a lot of service issues involved,Hoover kept hammering away at the public,and these were more than likely the most popular vacuum in the business ,dont recall how long the production run was?Ibelive this was the older brother of the concept 1 which was and still is one of the top 1 or 2 cleaning machines in the world.You guys can bicker back and forth all you want,but this can not be disputed,hoover beat every one else to the punch with getting the dirt out of rugs.
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04/20/07 at 2:00pm
Hello OT:
The first Dial was the model 1100 about 1963 and had the by pass hose (which was tuflex just like it's attachment hose) screwed into the dirt path channeling which was painted plastic. HOOVER soon made a few quick and easy changes. HOOVER cuffed the hose connection in the vacuum and made it a pressure fit (for easy removal to clean and unclog). And made the dirt by-pass channeling see-thru clear plastic so users could see/clear any clogs (like Christmas tree needles). Dials and power dials had a long successful production run (about 20 plus years) and led to the Concept series.
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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #187 -
04/20/07 at 5:50pm
Hello guy's indeed the dial with power drive,was a great item for the older customers that still wanted the deep cleaning of the hoover upright without the push pull factor,the transmission really did the trick ,I honestly feel the tech drive in the generation series kirby actually saved kirby,because the older customers that wanted to stay with the brand bought again and the machine cleaned and performed like a kirby but was as easy to use as pushing a broom.
I feel kirby owes hoover for inventing the self propelled vacuum.
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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #188 -
04/20/07 at 10:21pm
Quote from JD
on 04/20/07 at 4:01am:
Hello Carmine
Although the hose and dirt path hose may be subject to wear and tear they are still covered in the 5 year warranty! The same could be said for the wand as you are using it for above floor cleaning but I've had a new one of them before under warranty! Had a new soleplate,you could say that wear and tear!
I would say the dirt path on the DC15 is no better than the DC18 as it is exposed! I've seen a few where the hose has been knocked off and the clip broken off. One thing I found is it gets in the way when cleaning along skirting boards etc... Hence why they changed it on the DC18 Slim.
To be honest I've never had any problems with the hose or the dirt path hose on any of my Dyson's!! I don't know what people do with them!
JD
I've seen Dyson DC04's with split dirt-path hoses. It seems to be because the floor nozzle is constantly flexing the hose as the cleaning head adjusts to the floor surface, as the cleaner is pushed back and forth.
UK Electrolux 500 uprights had a dirt-path hose too, but it was narrower and reinforced with polyester/nylon mesh (similar to the American Hoover hoses).
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Re: Dyson DC18 Slim Upright Vacuum Cleaner
Reply #189 -
04/21/07 at 12:27pm
Hi Carmine
Your welcome!
I have not had any problems with the dirt path hose on my DC07. It's never come off, teared or broken in the 5 years plus I've had the machine from new. Nor has the dirt path hose come into contact with flooring. In fact when you use the cleaner the that hose is pushed upwards away from the floor. Where it is attached to the cleaning head is away from the floor.
I can see where Trilobite is coming from, with the dirt path hose on the DC04, and even the DC07 and DC14 it is constantly flexing!
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