Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi all Just wondered if anyone knew of anything new on the horizon from SEBO? Will SEBO ever upgrade the X Series or replace it with a completely new model like the C Series canister was replaced by the D Series!? Thanks DC18

I think the new website for SEBO Germany is very good really like it, nicely laid out and informative. I'm still having a good look around it! Love the pictures especially the close up ones! So vacmanuk you've sold your SEBO X4 and X1.1 and now have a X1, I do see a few X1's on ebay recently. So your liking your SEBO X1 then? Sounds like you prefer it over the other X models? I'm looking at getting an X4 but still keeping my Felix. Like the idea of the convenience of the wand and hose on the X Series do miss not having a wand and hose combination on board. Be interesting to see what's new in the future from the SEBO stable.

I've tried and he won't get me a sebo to demo... He isn't interested in dealing with the line.. but after I started asking about sebo, he did buy a sebo X4 that a lady traded for a kirby sentria (dumb move I think) and thought that he'd sell it to me.. I told him I knew what he was up to and that it wasn't gonna go.. SO now he's stuck with a like new x4 that is just setting.. LOL Oh well I guess...

As far as the canister with the long hose, its nice to be able to do an entire flight of stairs without fighting with the canister, as well as clean my car out without having to drag the vac to each door.. That being said, I recently acquired a MD-S2 central vac canister that I installed.. Just had to pay for 2 new motors in it.. Talk about power... WOW.... That solves the 16' hose request cause now I have 30'... I'm using a lindhaus wide power nozzle with it. That lindhaus doesn't pull up the rugs as much as the riccar did. I think the Riccar is gonna go to Grandma for Christmas that way its still around if I ever needed it back...

I see in the latest Which Report that they tested a SEBO Felix and the filtration didn't score to well for allergen retention! Not sure why as I have a SEBO Felix Classic which I have had for 5 years now and can say you can never smell the dust from the bag and even the pet hairs now I have a dog! That is without the charcoal filter they now do and using paper bags not the new style ones and I have not got the fresh capsule in at present either! Not sure where Which are coming from! What was a very now surprise was one of my local big Curry Superstores now has a SEBO vacuum stand within the vacuum cleaner area, with a SEBO Banner 'We love SEBO'. They have a SEBO branded carpet mat and have on display the Felix Vogue and Pet models, the X4 Pet (which they had on display before on its own!) and the pet versions of the K & D Series (no hose or tube to test though). Least they now have a proper stand which was fab to see. Was quite surprised how light the D Series canister is! Would have loved to have seen more SEBO models on display but least it is a start!

DC18 wrote:
I actually sent my Dart to Sebo to ingest the smell of cleaning up after two Westies - they weren't surprised as they had had a few owners complaining about the smell of dog coming from their previous Sebo machines - this is why the charcoal filter was released. What model did they test? If they tested the Vogue model then it wouldn't surprise me as that has the basic filter and Which would do that intentionally, since their latest tests show a few discrepancies with even their favourite Miele brand models. I finally cancelled my subscription with them this year after being with them since 2009. I wouldn't really consider Which to know what they are doing - no matter how independent they are.

I've not really had any pet smells coming from my SEBO Felix to notice since we have a dog! The model I believe was the SEBO Felix 1 Premium - picture was the white and navy one! They gave it a best buy and strangely part of the cons was it noisy!! I don't find my particularly noisy! I know what you mean about Which! Will try the new style bags once I have finished with the paper ones!

jkbmmv wrote:

If you really want a long hose, why  not just purchase an extension hose.  This hose can connect to the wand-end of the handle hose.  Then you can vacuum w/o moving the main vacuum unit.

The only problem with an extension hose on top of the existing hose from your vacuum is having a vacuum that is powerful enough to contain the suction power right through/compensate for an extra hose to be added. My Numatic Henry 1200w just about copes with 6 metres of extra extension hose on top of its already long 2.5 metre hose - but it always has to be put in the highest suction setting compared to the lowest setting. Again it also depends on the actual vacuum of choice and its design - if it has sealed suction, very little leaks and air outlet valves are closed over, it's far more effective.

vacmanuk wrote:
The Riccar 1700 is a powerful machine.  Utilizing an extension hose, say 15ft., will not cause problems.  You would have to imagine that even if there was decrease in performance, this model would still have adequate power to finish a task.  This vac collector just wants the longer length to clean on his bed.  A power nozzle will not be able to be used.  Personally, I have used long extension hoses on weaker performing machines w/fine results.  A universal extension hose is acceptable for the Riccar.

Mike_W wrote:
Not use a power head on a bed? I used my Sebo ET-1 all the time for cleaning the mattress - not a problem there.

As for the Riccar 1700 - well, it it has a 1700 watt motor thus going by its name, then I'd still be questionning the use of a much longer extension hose on top of what it has. I say this because I have tried my own Miele S4 which has an 1800 motor - and turned up to the max, it struggles to keep up with strong suction and the 1.5 metre extension hose already added to its 1.8 metre standard hose that comes with the machine. Proof you can have the best machine in the world with sealed suction, but still unable to sustain the same power with a much longer extension hose attached on top of its existing design.

vacmanuk wrote:
Do not be so quick to try to find something wrong w/my statement, because you will only come to a deadend.

He would not be able to use a power nozzle on his bed or even to vacuum his rugs, because the extension hose does not have electric wiring for doing so.  Stop and think before reacting.  He has animals, I believe,  he probably is dealing w/animal hair, etc.  He most likely has a comforter, quilt, etc., which he does not want to wash every few days.  What some people do is vacuum them off.  He probably gets on the bed and makes his way around; vacuuming as he goes.  Now, think about vacuuming the same thing w/a power nozzle.  No, it is not going to work.  The material is going to get caught, plus the brushroll will wear the material faster than it possibly could on carpeting.  Why in the world would someone want a very long hose to use a power nozzle on the bed. Maybe if the bed was 15ft. high.  Believe me, there were a few times that I just used the upholstery attachment or floor brush to vacuum off an area of my comforter.  He is a vacuum collector like yourself.  Put yourself in his shoes.  He can do what he wants. 

As for the power from an extension hose, well, read my comment.  There would still be adequate amount of power to finish the task.  He understand extension hoses. He even said that he used a hose on his Filter Queen, which you failed to see.  You failed to recognize I even said I used extension hoses on "weaker performing machines".

I have used a vacuum cleaner w/a brushroll, to vacuum my mattresses regularly.  I have told people to do this for ages.  Some think they need a special vacuum cleaner to do it, but they do not.  They do not need to convert their Kirby to a handheld for mattress cleaning.  What I do, and tell others to do, is put the vacuum on the bed and start going over it.  No need to get on the mattress or stretch.  No need to take alot of time.  

As for the Riccar 1700.  I cannot figure out why someone in Scotland wants to tell the U.S. about our machines, which you have never used.  The 1700 has a 1700 watt motor?  Does that mean the 1800 has an 1800 watt motor. Does the Miele S2 have a two watt motor and the S8 have an eight watt motor.  For those who want to know, companies have chosen many different names which may have nothing to do w/the motor.