Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

What your seeing is the end result of outsourcing. When corporate decided to sell off the machines and tooling to eureka aka electrolux, They take what they get from china and have to live with it,UNTIL THE CONTRACT EXPIRES

This has been going on for a long time , and now that the factory is retooled the quality control is being handled again in house.

The last good bag was the grey silveado bags................

mole

mole wrote:
Hi MP:E,

Wow! You're talking way back to the mid-70s. I bought a Silverado in 1974.

Venson

Hi Big V

If you bought a silverardo in 1974, you must of bought a prototype, It was not released till 1982.

Maybe you bought a SUPER J also a great machine,i liked the lightning bolts on the bags,they were yellow in color,B.T.W. theres a problem on the blue bags also its with the couplings.SOMETHINGS GOT TO BE DONE, Also its not a bad idea to staple the pleat At the bottom of the bag.

KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED, I have also replaced many late model motors because of bag breakage and dirt seepage into the fans, The new vortec style motors are not as rugged as the older motors, the rpms are into orbit and are very dust and dirt sensitive,unlike the old workhorse motors. I believe the ddm motor also has this same problem.

regards

MOLE

mole wrote:
Hi MOLE,

Oops! You know -- you're right it wasn't 1974. That was the year for a used Pontiac Firebird and a new Filter Queen with the little German-made PN. The Super J was bright gold in color so that couldn't be it nor was it the bronze model, the Olympia One . I do remember well buying the Silverado while working at a Manhattan type shop just up the street from the dealer at the time. I assume I must have bought the Silverado after I moved from Manhattan, around 1981.

Eventually I passed it on to my best friend, and can vouch for its durability as it survived his cleaning man for almost 20 years until my friend passed away in 2005. I also had given him a Hoover Concept One upright with power drive which did not fare well. Apparently the power drive freaked the cleaning guy out.

That said, of all the bagged vacuums I've used or owned I have never experienced a disposable bag break with an Electrolux. Have you?

That I always attributed to the contained space of the bag chamber. The most bag-break prone I recall were the Lewyt's using the Speed-sak.

Venson

mole wrote:

Hello Mole, Venson:

Perhaps, the Golden J in 74-75 to commemorate Lux's 50th Anniversary? 

Agree on the stapling the seam.  Excellent idea.

Carmine D.

Bud, noise levels solved

Lux has come out with a solution for the high pitch/noise levels these newer, more powerful motors produce.  They have taken what looks like a nylon mesh pot/pan scrubber and inserted it into the exhaust port on the Legacy and Classic models.  Does it dampen the noise???  YES!!  BUT, I brought out my Baird airflow meter, and the airflow has now  dropped about 15% or so.  What a great idea     I don't believe they are installing this on the Guardian, but you could ask your dealer for the material as it will still fit yours. 

Vernon

Vernon,

That is where they fitted the hepa filter on the new machine.

Bud

Bud,

If you were to remove your hepa filter and look into the hole where the air is discharged, this is where the "sound filter" is pushed in.

Vernon

I finally received an answer to the bag issue. They concide that their is a problem where the inner layer overlaps and said they have taken measures to correct the problem. They assured me that it does not significantly effect the performance of the bag in any way. Obviously they will make sure the inner bag is glued at the seam and perhaps in more places along the inner bag surface. Wonder how long it will take to get the new bags in? I would imagine they will try and sell whatever stock they have before sending out the new stock.....

I guess until the bag problem is fixed, I will change it every 3 or 4 weeks, depending on use. It almost makes me want to put the perfect vacuum hepa bag in, but I don't want to void the 20 year warranty. The cardboard is thicker on the perfect vacuum bag. Don't know if this would cause a problem shutting the lid with the thicker carboard or not? Seems like it would....

Bud

budmattingly wrote:

Hello Bud:

Thanks for the post with the Aerus response.  Changing more frequently until the corrected bags are received sounds like the best approach.  I too believe the thicker cardboard bag collar poses a potential problem for the Ultra G operation.  Even if you fit it with force, the integrity of the collar may be degraded causing a worse problem for dirt and dust by-pass than the weak bags.

Carmine D.