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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

dyson going bankrupt?
Original Message   Sep 21, 2009 1:34 pm
Hello dyson DIB:

I heard a rumor today and figure the only way to confirm it is to run it by you.  The grapevine is saying dyson is going bankrupt soon?  Any truth to it?

Carmine D. 

This message was modified Sep 21, 2009 by CarmineD
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #31   Oct 24, 2009 2:10 pm
Venson wrote:
DIB,

Quoting Shakespeare, "You always ends with a jade's trick. I know you of old."

"Ideas that have come from those close to me have generated over $3b EASILY."

Give me a break already! I didn't ask what your friends do, did or have done. Thus, your greatest talent yet appears to be name calling and as usual you and your paranoid perceptions have again proven the point for me. By the way, I don't have to run to Mike W. or anyone to be defended. I can manage on my own well enough.

Venson



Dyson DIB:

Are you admitting finally that you are related to Sir James and he was kind enough to give you a job?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #32   Oct 24, 2009 2:12 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Venson,  you are beginning to act like Carmine.  What does DIB's accomplishments have to do with lawsuits?

Carmine shuffles the subject regularly to fight off the wolves.



You HARDSELL are making an awfully cute pay potty dance partner with DIB.  Did he promise you that his Uncle James would give you a job too?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #33   Oct 24, 2009 5:03 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Hardsell,

Quoting DIB comments from this same thread, here's why . . .

"By comparison...
Carmine has never posted his innovation numbers here. That being his - triangulating and pointing out where to drill a hole for the toggle switch on the Hoover Constellation.

Mole’s invented nothing.

Venson’s worthless.

Retardturtle, is looking to score points and make friends with vacuum dealers and then kick-back and watch the money roll in. Youth."


It being in past posts DIB has also called me a liar as to whether Severus and I were joined at the hip and, last but not least, labeled me worthless, I'd like an accounting of all he sees himself as. This is not my usual habit but one can tire of name calling and braying, even though I'm all for it if there's a good excuse. I so far have seen none here and just want a reality check to be sure I haven't missed out on something. That's why I'm asking.

Venson


You did not use those quotes on the post that I commented on.  Please remain you usual self and do not resort to Carmine's ways.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #34   Oct 24, 2009 6:20 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You did not use those quotes on the post that I commented on.  Please remain you usual self and do not resort to Carmine's ways.



HS:

Again, as usual you always miss the obvious.  Repetition is not because of me, but it's because of you!  We all know it takes you a few times and sometimes awhile for you to comprehend!  

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #35   Oct 24, 2009 9:42 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Again, as usual you always miss the obvious.  Repetition is not because of me, but it's because of you!  We all know it takes you a few times and sometimes awhile for you to comprehend!  

Carmine D.


You may have missed something Carmine.  Read again and try to keep quiet and try to  keep up.
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #36   Oct 24, 2009 10:25 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Venson,

Living in reality is not your forte.

I will say this...  Ideas that have come from those close to me have generated over $3b EASILY.  I do not take lessons from hunkering down store keepers or old men playing children’s characters.  Deceivers, bad-mouther's and the jealous like you two are in the way of real men who get things done.


DIB

P.S.  If you want...  Have Mike W. write me privately and he and I can discuss your disgust. 


Dustmite (aka DIB) - so what tax increase are you responsible for?

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #37   Oct 25, 2009 7:31 am
HARDSELL wrote:
You may have missed something Carmine.  Read again and try to keep quiet and try to  keep up.


HS:

See, there is your proof again.  You just never get it.  You miss the point again and again, just like you do with your vacuum choices.    You should stop your pay potty dancing with your friend here dyson DIB and try, as hard as it is for you [no pun intended HS] to stay up on the posts and subjects of the thread.  In this way, when you read here that dyson announces its plans to downsize/retrench, you won't post an ID 10 T question. 

Carmine D.

Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #38   Oct 26, 2009 1:00 am
I searched for Dyson lawsuits online.

I did find the one against Hoover UK, and the Amway one. I also found one against Miele where Dyson was taking them to task for claims that their vacuums did not lose suction.  In reviewing the book, "Against the Odds" there were a number of lawsuits by most major European vac mfrs, against Dyson simply to force Dyson to expend resources.  It's a common tactic in the corporate world, especially against promising startups , or 'upstarts' and the entrenched market giants would call them. Carmine you gave one example of patent lawsuit against an individual inventor. Can you give others? I think it petty of James Dyson to crush a student with a legitimate claim to originality. He did not extend the kind of treatment he thought was his due to his courtroom rival. I don't  think it would have taken a lot of pounds to satisfy the young man in question. Not every threat of a lawsuit actually is filed. I wonder what James would have done if his challenge of Miele's S7 adverts had not gone the way he wanted?

James Dyson once chided an interviewer for commenting on his millions with "vulgar, vulgar, vulgar...the one benefit of making a lot of money is that you can pour it back into making better products" He also said things worked best when management, production, and design all worked together in the same location, but that was obviously before he moved production to Malaysia.


I will take the liberty here to digress a moment and say a few words in Carmine's behalf, as he would never defend himself thus:  DIB, and whoever else is listening, it's not all about money. When we 'shuffle off this mortal coil', to quote the immortal bard, all our money and self-importance count for naught. The kind of service one has rendered to God, one's spouse, family, church, peers, colleagues and customers are the measure by which we are rightly judged by the only ONE who has the right to judge.  We all have feet of clay, including your hero James Dyson. The question is what do any of us do about it?  Pride goeth before a fall, but he who humbles himself shall be exhalted.


Peace,

Trebor
vacomatic


Joined: Jul 26, 2007
Points: 649

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #39   Oct 26, 2009 1:39 am
Just the facts, folks...just the facts.

If Dyson is going bust, it's interesting that the bust follows introductions of two rather unique products, its Airblade hand dryer (which does what it claims to do), and the new "bladeless fan"  (which is actually not fully true as there is a bladed turbine in the base sending air to the bladeless venturi jet performing the work as the room's air mover).

Granted home sales and related stuff are way down. 
In Portland OR home builders have been in slow mode for some time, with one going under and another beginning to make a profit again after a few years of losses.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: dyson going bankrupt?
Reply #40   Oct 26, 2009 7:40 am
Vacomatic:

As with all companies that go under, the scheme is to keep it from the workers and buyers as long as possible.  Business as usual is the management mantra.  GM's saturn is an excellent example.  Advertising on TV the same day that GM announced Penske backed out of the deal and the brand would be scrubbed. 

I would argue in the reverse that a company that unloads all its latest at one time is desperate.  Most do so gradually to give time to buying public for reaction to the products.

Just the facts.

Carmine D.

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