Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Anybody have any ideas about what actually should constitute the basics of a good "green" vacuum cleaner?

I was checking out the Eureka Envirovac's ad claims and specs -- plus some not so favorable customer reviews today. They got me thinking.

Eureka claims that it's Envirovac's 800-watt motor uses less power than the 1200-watt vacuums now quite common on the market. We've had a long run of vacuum cleaners that have served us well using well under 800 watts for many years. So what's the difference?

Is it possible that an efficient 1200-watt vacuum may help get my work finished faster and even out the power consumption question by way of shorter use time? Also keep in mind that the whole issue of a vacuum cleaner's power consumption is highly debatable. Over a year, power used for vacuuming no where near matches the amount of draw by refrigerators, electric ranges and high heat producing appliances within the same span of time.

Better bagged and bagless vacuums do use final filtering medium that may prove a noticeable hit on the wallet if not our ecology. Dumping a dirt bin or water-pan in some ways may lend to saving on what you'd pay for bags although the variable there may hang upon size and price. We use far more paper and plastic by way of other household disposables like diapers and personal paper goods.

The few matters mentioned are just the tip of the iceberg when considering the total question. Maybe an ecologically beneficial vacuum cleaner, or any other appliance for that matter, can be more "green" by way of potential longevity and easy repairability. Biodegradable, recyclable, whatever -- brands and models we've seen endure and provide useful service over long periods of time may be the greenest cleaning machines we'll know by reason of less need for replacement. How do we keep that in the mix while moving ahead?

Venson

Hello HS:

Your welcome for the answer to your question.

I know the facts and circumstances as they relates to vacuums.  I call them like I see them.  If others, who have a vested interest in a company/brand, have a problem with that, it's their problem.  Freedom of speech gives them the right to say so just as it does me to say it.  I have no ties to any company now and/or ever.  I'm retired from the vacuum store business after 40 plus years and as an industry consultant for over 15 years.   Long time to be associated with an industry.  I like to think contrary to some posters' opinions here that I've learned alot in those 55 plus years.  But I'm always the proverbial student of the trade and willing to learn more.  And I usually do by asking.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Really?  I did a search and found no refurbished ORECK's at Harbor Freight.  Just new ORECK Commercial uprights for $189.  BTW, an excellent price.

Trust but verify.

Carmine D.

PS:  BTW HS I mentioned on several occasions here that the newest Hotel/Casino built at a cost of $600 MILLION in Las Vegas uses two brands of uprights for cleaning: ORECK and SEBO.  The ORECK model in use is the Commercial upright sold by Harbor Freight for $189.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB

So how do you know its not true?....what proof  do have in your possesion that says diff.....I expressed what i felt /how i viewed things from an opinion point of view..just like you do and have done....on many occasions...and its not taken to heart in any way because its just your opinion and freedom to voice it.....to express it.  so if you can[express]  babble on about rats and pimps/vac dealers.......then you can deal with some dyson point of view opinions...so suck it up buttercup.....its a free world...and we all look forward to your posts /comments /challenges DIB.. [even when you state derogatory or insulting comments or views]..so relax and be happy... cause your our favorite dyson buddy. ...and its just a vacuum....so lets move on shall we. 

turtle1

CarmineD wrote:

As usual Carmine, you try to spin it off.  Here is the description.

Factory reconditioned, factory perfect. 120 volts, 60 Hz, 4 amps; Overall dimensions: 9-1/4" L x 13-1/4" W x 48" H;
Weight: 8 lbs.

WHERE DOES IT SAY NEW?

Post the link to Harbor Freight with this ad description. 

Carmine D.

The only ORECK sold by Harbor Freight is the Commercial Upright for $189.  Excellent price.  Why mess with refurbs?  How much could they get?  $100?  What's the business advantage?  Post the link for Harbor Freight if you have it and call me a liar.  Wouldn't you enjoy doing that rather than dilly dallying around with your nonsense posts.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hello my dyson friend DIB:

This post got back-treked after your dyson friend HS who ran interference for you.  I brought it forward so you can respond to me on my views and opinions about dyson controlling the refurb market.  I'm curious to hear your arguments about old junked dysons [DC07, 14, 15 and 18] that are refurbed by dyson and sold in the market place at prices that compete with retailers who are still stuck with these same new models on their shelves and inventories.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=55730

You're so right HS.   I feel like a real idiot.  BUT, now that I have your undivided attention, HS let me opine further on the dyson refurb market IN THE USA.

No matter what spin you/others put on the dyson refurb market it's a huge blemish for dyson.  Posters who know better here have said so for years upon years.  Long before the dyson refurb models were 3-4-5 and more years old as they are now.  These are not recycled dysons thru the WEE [UK] program. 

If you OPINE that these old dyson models [as much as 7 years], like DC07, DC14, DC15, DC18 are still new stock finally sold by retailers AND returned by customers to retailers and then by retailers to dyson for refurb, it's a huge loss of dyson sales revenue.  And a huge black eye on dyson.  Which begs the question: Are these new returns for refurb deducted from the dyson sales numbers before financial reporting? 

If you OPINE that dyson/dyson sanctioned refurbers are collecting these OLD tossed models from dumps/disposals after 5-7 years of use and refurbing for sale, then you have all the negative PR/consequences that M00seUK alluded to. 

If you OPINE both, you have one heck of a bad mix and two black eyes for dyson. 

Now, HS, choose your poison.   OR OPINE YOUR OWN FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES WRT dyson refurbs in contrast to me and post here.  I'm all ears and eyes.

I apologize for making you post this obvious HF ad which I saw.  But I wanted to make a point with DIB and readers here.  You were running interference, so you got stuck in the bucket, and I wanted to ensure I had your undivided attention.  Thank you.  I did.  

Carmine D.