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Joined: Nov 28, 2007
Points: 172

New Electrolux
Original Message   Jul 1, 2009 4:50 pm
I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #57   Aug 4, 2009 9:12 am
Hi Carmine,

Considering our current economic picture, do you think is easy to acquire or that there may be limitations for financing? 40 or more years ago, door-to-door vac vendors were allowing credit not only to those who appeared well-heeled but to just about everybody including homes where welfare was the major source of income.

Again my suspicion is that they were so free with credit/financed sales because the actual cost of the machines was far below the asking price.

Wonder if they'll set up a "rebate for clunkers" plans for old vacs the same way as they've done for cars?

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #58   Aug 4, 2009 1:47 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Carmine,

Considering our current economic picture, do you think is easy to acquire or that there may be limitations for financing? 40 or more years ago, door-to-door vac vendors were allowing credit not only to those who appeared well-heeled but to just about everybody including homes where welfare was the major source of income.

Again my suspicion is that they were so free with credit/financed sales because the actual cost of the machines was far below the asking price.

Wonder if they'll set up a "rebate for clunkers" plans for old vacs the same way as they've done for cars?

Venson


Hello Venson:

Contrary to the Administration's pronouncements about mortgage assistance thru the Feds to assist borrowers, I have not seen any iota of real world evidence.  Especially here in Las Vegas.  All the major banks/lenders are turning down borrowers for refi's and interest rate adjustments.  Unfortunately, as the Inspector General for the TARP funds has asserted on several occasions, there is no accountability/transparency for the expenditures of these "taxpayer" funds.  By past practice, we know from the Government Accountability Office [formerly the General Accounting Office(GAO)] that WITH OVERSIGHT in place the funds risk a 10 percent amount of fraud, waste and abuse.  WITHOUT OVERSIGHT, as is the case of the TARP funds, who knows the amount for sure.  $500 BILLION with no oversight in place.

WRT cash for clunkers:  I am the original owner of a 1999 Ford Explorer XLT with combined MPG of 15.  It is on the list of eligibles for the Fed program.  It has over 92K miles.  I am in the market for a replacement.  But I haven't taken advantage of the Fed program.  Why?  I have received solicitations from Ford daily with a line of credit of $35K and promise of almost $8500 cash discount for my Explorer.  NO big deal seeing I got $3000 cash rebate on a new 2008 Ford Escape in November 2007 w/o any trade in. 

Leave it to the government to screw it up.  You know what the dealership would do with my trade in?  Throw in a gunk solution to kill the engine and squash the body to a state of being indistinguishable.  A waste.  Many, many years ago I witnessed HOOVER employees killing their old style upright vacuums when they came in on trade.  Why?  HOOVER believed as long as the old style HOOVER's [and I'm talking 30's and 40's vintage] were on the market, they would never sell any of the new HOOVER's.  The scheme didn't work for HOOVER.  I survived for 7 years in the vacuum business never selling a new HOOVER.  Just selling HOOVER rebuilts to people who wanted new HOOVER's. 

Same with the cash for clunkers.  As the price of gas goes down, these old fuel guzzlers will become more desirable and their value/prices will go up.  More so with so many going to the dumps.  Carmine's rule: Whatever the Feds try to accomplish, usually just the opposite occurs.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #59   Aug 4, 2009 2:18 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson:

WRT cash for clunkers:  I am the original owner of a 1999 Ford Explorer XLT with combined MPG of 15. Carmine D.



Is that 8 on the road and 7 in the city combined to get 15?
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #60   Aug 4, 2009 2:48 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Is that 8 on the road and 7 in the city combined to get 15?



No that's 8 new DC25's sold and 7 returned in less than 3 months that didn't run due to a faulty motor wiring harness.  For a total of 15 dissatisfied people.  The 8 that flushed $500 down the toilet for a DC25 and the 6 DC07 and DC14 clutch repairs for $100-$135 each who may have traded up to a DC25 but won't.  Why? Because the dyson dealer for North Las Vegas [number 15] refuses to sell the dyson ball model.  Why?  He has too much business integrity and honesty to sell dyson ball vacuums that he knows will come back in under warranty for repairs.  Amazing how the numbers grow exponentially when word of mouth by these 15 disgruntled dyson users/seller gets out into the market place to others.  Like me.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #61   Aug 4, 2009 8:44 pm
CarmineD wrote:
No that's 8 new DC25's sold and 7 returned in less than 3 months that didn't run due to a faulty motor wiring harness.  For a total of 15 dissatisfied people.  The 8 that flushed $500 down the toilet for a DC25 and the 6 DC07 and DC14 clutch repairs for $100-$135 each who may have traded up to a DC25 but won't.  Why? Because the dyson dealer for North Las Vegas [number 15] refuses to sell the dyson ball model.  Why?  He has too much business integrity and honesty to sell dyson ball vacuums that he knows will come back in under warranty for repairs.  Amazing how the numbers grow exponentially when word of mouth by these 15 disgruntled dyson users/seller gets out into the market place to others.  Like me.

Carmine D.



Must have been using some of those faulty Hoover switches.  Didn't they cause some fires.  Also what was the fine imposed on Hoover for failure to report the switches? 
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #62   Aug 4, 2009 10:41 pm
vaclov wrote:
New Electrolux Specs:

Electrical rating 10 amps at 120 volts
Air watts (motor) 439
CFM 145
Canister weight 11.9 lbs
Power Nozzle weight 4.6 lbs
Canister dimensions 24"l x 9"w x 8.5"h
Power nozzle dimensions 3.5"h x 15"w x 8"deep
Cord length 20 ft
Filter bag capacity 2.5 us qts Type c bag
20 year limited warranty

Power Nozzle now has an overheat shutoff.
The Aerus symbol lights up when plugged in to show its ready.

This info came from "pr-21" at the Vacuum Discussion forum. I wish there were some pictures of the vacuum.

So at those posted numbers...could you use a standard lux bag , or a cloth bag due to the power of the new motor. .I had read somewhere that  PERFECT  had to use cloth on their model.... or do paper bags have the strength to handle it....given the small size of bag...- just curious but how do the lux brown bags compare to the micron magic  paper  bags in terms of durability and filtering?
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Vernon


Joined: Jan 21, 2008
Points: 69

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #63   Aug 5, 2009 11:19 am
Lux is still using their standard C Home solutions bags in these newer more powerful units.  I highly recommend using the perfect bag (which is cloth hepa rated) or any other brand of cloth hepa (endust comes to mind) in a lux machine.  In fact, I will never use paper again as the cloth/hepa type are soooo superior in filtration, airflow, and useful life.  Yes, the perfect bags are much, much stronger, the cardboard collar is about 50% thicker to withstand the tremendous suction the perfect unit produces.  I have never had the bag separate from the collar with the perfect bag, unlike others which have. 

Vernon
procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #64   Aug 5, 2009 11:57 am
Vernon said use the Perfect bag and not the OEM from Aerus. Sorry, if you do the warranty will go null and void.The bags are designed and known to work in the Aerus products.I am not comfortable with the  Perfect bag I have seen.

 The Ultra Filtration Technolgy has for it's bag gives 94% effecient at removing particles as small as 0.3 microns, including smoke , mold, bacteria, dust and dust mites ,pollen, pet dander and lung damaging particles.

Anti Microbial  Growth of germs ,bacteria ,mold and mildew inside the bag is prevented by anti microbial agent.

The bags for the Aerus 4 times more effective than the previous 4 ply they had since 1952. They are designed to take the suction or  there would be a change.  Designed  to fit bags - the majority have not given the filtration in use  as good as OEM.

                                                                                            Procare

mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #65   Aug 5, 2009 1:50 pm
Hmm this comment from PROCARE, does raise some warranty issues.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Electrolux
Reply #66   Aug 5, 2009 1:54 pm
mole wrote:
Hmm this comment from PROCARE, does raise some warranty issues.


PROCARE:  He's the Man!

Carmine D.

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