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Nette


Joined: Jul 24, 2009
Points: 6

Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Original Message   Jul 24, 2009 6:51 pm
I just found this site. I really need to get a new vacuum cleaner. Right now I just have a Eureka Mighty Mite with a HEPA filter. I have recently taken in a long-haired chihuahua and a cat (for a friend who is not able to care for them any longer). I am allergic to (and have also grown very fond of) both the cat and dog and I also have quite bad dust, mold, and pollen allergies. I live in an older split level house: the two upper floors are bare wood with no rugs and the lower two floors are covered with wall-to-wall very-low-pile commercial carpet. The cat (bless her) is generally content to voluntarily stay in the basement all of the time with the exception of just one or two very brief morning strolls each day to the next two higher floors. She sheds what seems to a cat neophyte like myself to be an enormous amount of fur but I'm told by friends who are cat owners that it is a normal amount. The chihuahua just wants to be in the same room with me although I have kept her out of the bedrooms and bathroom on the top floor. I have looked at quite a few vacuum cleaners from the very inexpensive to Miele and Lindhaus and I still am unsure of what to get. I've never had to deal with pet hair and dander before. What would work best for pet hair and dander on low-pile commercial carpet and still be good for bare wood floors and have a good filtering system for allergens? I do know that I would like the self sealing type of bag that is in the Miele (and perhaps other brands?) because of my allergy problems. I can spend up to $850 if I have to but it would be much better for my budget to spend less. I'm sorry for the long-winded description. Advice would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
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mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #24   Aug 5, 2009 9:28 am
Hi Venson,I know how much you like your MIELE tango,its no dought an excellent  cleaning and super clean running upright, The cloth blown fleece high filtration bags are the best on the market,  , I remember when miele used the paper treated bags and was one of the first to use the  cloth like bags another thing is the burst strength is dynomite

I find it very strange that the perfect lux comes standard with the filtrete bags, but no automatic shutoff.This machine is the old diamond jubille lux with updates ,the prices are really coming down.Do you know anyone that uses a PERFECT LUX?

MOLE

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #25   Aug 5, 2009 10:28 am
mole wrote:
. . . I find it very strange that the perfect lux comes standard with the filtrete bags, but no automatic shutoff.This machine is the old diamond jubille lux with updates ,the prices are really coming down.Do you know anyone that uses a PERFECT LUX?</p><p>MOLE

Hi MOLE,

To be honest, I have not met anyone who owns one nor have seen any in the indie shops in my neighborhood even though they turn up easily enough online. Being the Perfect Lux, by my understanding, is not affiliated with Aerus/Electrolux maybe they aren't allowed licensing to use the shut-off mechanism.

Nonetheless, don't forget that Elecrolux sold a heck of a lot of non-automatics along side the top-of-the-line models to people who felt they were still getting quality minus a doo-dad or two all on account of the Electrolux name.

Though better on price than a new Aerus/Lux, Perfect Lux prices could have been a bit nicer to start with I think. Nice look, good build 'tis true but some practical folks might find it a lot cheaper just to go out and get a rebuilt or a good used Lux a lot cheaper.

Another issue for Perfect Lux here in New York City is that Aerus/Electrolux besides being well-known is a relatively visible presence. It has two franchises or shops in Manhattan and at least one in each of the other boroughs. If you want other niche brands like Filter Queen, Rainbow or even Kirby you really have to go looking.

Best,

Venson
Vernon


Joined: Jan 21, 2008
Points: 69

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #26   Aug 5, 2009 11:30 am
Mole and the rest of the gang, I agree that the pro-team upright is an excellent choice for the price.  It's like a lux semi-clone, without the high price!  In regards to who owns a perfect lux canister, none other than yours truly!

Vernon
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #27   Aug 5, 2009 11:40 am
Vernon wrote:
Mole and the rest of the gang, I agree that the pro-team upright is an excellent choice for the price.  It's like a lux semi-clone, without the high price!  In regards to who owns a perfect lux canister, none other than yours truly!<BR><BR>Vernon

Hi Vernon,

Did you find yours in a shop or online?

Venson
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #28   Aug 8, 2009 10:18 pm
Mm strange. Having owned the Felix for some time the S Class system (also HEPA identifable) is hospital grade so it could well be that whatever you tested had an old wrap around filter that needed replacement; particularly if it is an demo model you tried.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #29   Aug 8, 2009 10:27 pm
Also.. you could consider the older Sebo X model but bear in mind that it doesn't have a beater bar stop function. I've used a delicate floor brush bar on mine for marble flooring.. now how precious are your hard floors, Nette? The X is reasonably good at most things but doesn't swivel like the Felix. Optional filters consist of a charcoal embedded S Class filter but I have a sneaky suspicion that the U.S get totally different Sebo filters. Having spoken to the MD of Sebo UK he confirmed that the U.S prefer the paper pleated filter cartridges but they proved to be less than successful in Europe. I know some dealers in the U.S that sell the S Class charcoal filter though in lieu of the yellow cartridge placed in the Sebo X.

As for the Prochem featured here, I have another hunch that it has Sebo components which should mean extra longevity.
Vernon


Joined: Jan 21, 2008
Points: 69

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #30   Aug 8, 2009 11:06 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Vernon,

Did you find yours in a shop or online?

Venson

Venson,
I purchased my perfect canister through a distributor

Vernon
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #31   Aug 9, 2009 6:51 am
There is a definite lesson to be learned from Nette's case.  If you have health sensitivities, a 30 second test run in the store is not the best trial for a decision to buy.  Nothing like in-home for a few days.  And, it can be costly to return the purchase with a 20 percent penalty fee.  I don't know all the facts and circumstances but from what I do know it would appear that Nette buying a display model should not be charged a return fee of 20 percent.  The store owner is allowed to make his/her own rules and regulations on vacuum sales.  I would not support this one unless Nette/the user returned the vacuum long after buying with considerable use/wear and tear.

Carmine D. 

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #32   Aug 9, 2009 10:47 am
Hi Carmine,

It is true a shop owner can and may write the rules as regradrs their establishment but he customer has hte right to say no and look elsewhere. Per my recall, Nette could not have had the vacuum all that long before posting about the purchase and the problem.

Twenty percent is excessive. I make it a habit to get an understanding about return policy before I buy.

Though the vacuums recommended were certainly good, I think persons with hypersensitivity to dust might better consider central vacuums if at all feasible. I am not fully schooled as to installation costs but a decent CVS in a split-level home of average size with installation might run the same as the cost of high-end portable vacs like Miele and Sebo.

Though not an allergy suffer, on the other hand I'd think a supply of toss-away dust masks might be a good thing to keep around the house if a portable vac is what you have to use and maintain and you are very sensitive.

Venson

PS -- for any number of reasons I am highly reluctant to suggesting Rainbow.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Cat and Dog hair/dander and allergies
Reply #33   Aug 9, 2009 3:44 pm
Hi Venson:

If I recall MOLE suggested a refurbed CVS but I don't think Nette responded.

Many years ago I caught pneumonia from airborne dirt/germs.  Making me more prone to the disease after.  In the vacuum business, dirt is a part of every day life.  So I resigned myself to using the face masks for repair work, which as the doc said if I had done in the first place, I would not have caught it. 

Carmine D.

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