Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I heard tell that there was a new Lux coming down the pike.  Anyone have any info?  Is it a new Lux or a redesigned Guardian?

Some hear tell it has a digital motor. 

Did the words "on topic" ever mean anything... its reasons like the rants and b*tching in this thread that people don't read online forums. When I log on and see a thread updated I'm hoping to find info about the topic, not some petty disagreement. That is what email and instant messengers are for folks.

Back on topic, I picked up an Epic at an estate sale today and was kind of comparing notes to what was written early in the thread. This could be a nice machine if all holds true, but I reiterate my earlier statement in a different thread. The days of the luxury vacuum cleaner are coming to a close, me believes.

lazaruspup wrote:
Good morning lazaruspup,

My feeling remains that all any vacuum manufacturer needs is two, no more than three models per each type of machine it may make. Basically a good no-frills machine and a "deluxe" version with extra features for those that can't live without them or want to look good for the neighbors.

The big problem I see is that luxury items are now commanding pricing way, way above and beyond what it actually costs to make them. The idea of acquiring something a little better is great but if you can't afford it you buy what you can buy. I think even my old standby, Sears, is beginning to leave the average consumer behind in the dust as it's prices escalate too.

By the way, check out http://www.aerusonline.com. I don't know if it's been doing this all along but Aerus now has a "Buy now-pay later" plan in place. I haven't heard of this is years. In current history, most cunsumers buying expensive vacs like Lux, Rainbow, FQ and Kirby have been buying this machines with their credit cards, leaving the makers free of bother with accounting and collections -- especially in case of default.

Back in the day, many of the more costly niche brand vacs sold door to door had hook-ups with finance companies to encourage people to buy despite the high asking price. Many ofthe buyers were those for whom the cost of a hogh-priced vacuum was a really ungainly stretch of the budget. I recall I bought my first Filter Queen that way just to establish a credit background. I also handled the acquisition of a Lux Silverado the same way.

I assume that Aerus has linked up with GE for this purposes due to shrinking credit availability in regard to the credit card.

Venson

Hi Venson:

I saw the GE credit line advertised on the Aerus site.  Very interesting.  Looks like a direct swipe at all the big box retailers advertising credit for their customers' purchases.

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

Considering our current economic picture, do you think is easy to acquire or that there may be limitations for financing? 40 or more years ago, door-to-door vac vendors were allowing credit not only to those who appeared well-heeled but to just about everybody including homes where welfare was the major source of income.

Again my suspicion is that they were so free with credit/financed sales because the actual cost of the machines was far below the asking price.

Wonder if they'll set up a "rebate for clunkers" plans for old vacs the same way as they've done for cars?

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hello Venson:

Contrary to the Administration's pronouncements about mortgage assistance thru the Feds to assist borrowers, I have not seen any iota of real world evidence.  Especially here in Las Vegas.  All the major banks/lenders are turning down borrowers for refi's and interest rate adjustments.  Unfortunately, as the Inspector General for the TARP funds has asserted on several occasions, there is no accountability/transparency for the expenditures of these "taxpayer" funds.  By past practice, we know from the Government Accountability Office [formerly the General Accounting Office(GAO)] that WITH OVERSIGHT in place the funds risk a 10 percent amount of fraud, waste and abuse.  WITHOUT OVERSIGHT, as is the case of the TARP funds, who knows the amount for sure.  $500 BILLION with no oversight in place.

WRT cash for clunkers:  I am the original owner of a 1999 Ford Explorer XLT with combined MPG of 15.  It is on the list of eligibles for the Fed program.  It has over 92K miles.  I am in the market for a replacement.  But I haven't taken advantage of the Fed program.  Why?  I have received solicitations from Ford daily with a line of credit of $35K and promise of almost $8500 cash discount for my Explorer.  NO big deal seeing I got $3000 cash rebate on a new 2008 Ford Escape in November 2007 w/o any trade in. 

Leave it to the government to screw it up.  You know what the dealership would do with my trade in?  Throw in a gunk solution to kill the engine and squash the body to a state of being indistinguishable.  A waste.  Many, many years ago I witnessed HOOVER employees killing their old style upright vacuums when they came in on trade.  Why?  HOOVER believed as long as the old style HOOVER's [and I'm talking 30's and 40's vintage] were on the market, they would never sell any of the new HOOVER's.  The scheme didn't work for HOOVER.  I survived for 7 years in the vacuum business never selling a new HOOVER.  Just selling HOOVER rebuilts to people who wanted new HOOVER's. 

Same with the cash for clunkers.  As the price of gas goes down, these old fuel guzzlers will become more desirable and their value/prices will go up.  More so with so many going to the dumps.  Carmine's rule: Whatever the Feds try to accomplish, usually just the opposite occurs.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Is that 8 on the road and 7 in the city combined to get 15?

HARDSELL wrote:

No that's 8 new DC25's sold and 7 returned in less than 3 months that didn't run due to a faulty motor wiring harness.  For a total of 15 dissatisfied people.  The 8 that flushed $500 down the toilet for a DC25 and the 6 DC07 and DC14 clutch repairs for $100-$135 each who may have traded up to a DC25 but won't.  Why? Because the dyson dealer for North Las Vegas [number 15] refuses to sell the dyson ball model.  Why?  He has too much business integrity and honesty to sell dyson ball vacuums that he knows will come back in under warranty for repairs.  Amazing how the numbers grow exponentially when word of mouth by these 15 disgruntled dyson users/seller gets out into the market place to others.  Like me.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Must have been using some of those faulty Hoover switches.  Didn't they cause some fires.  Also what was the fine imposed on Hoover for failure to report the switches? 

vaclov wrote:
So at those posted numbers...could you use a standard lux bag , or a cloth bag due to the power of the new motor. .I had read somewhere that  PERFECT  had to use cloth on their model.... or do paper bags have the strength to handle it....given the small size of bag...- just curious but how do the lux brown bags compare to the micron magic  paper  bags in terms of durability and filtering?

Lux is still using their standard C Home solutions bags in these newer more powerful units.  I highly recommend using the perfect bag (which is cloth hepa rated) or any other brand of cloth hepa (endust comes to mind) in a lux machine.  In fact, I will never use paper again as the cloth/hepa type are soooo superior in filtration, airflow, and useful life.  Yes, the perfect bags are much, much stronger, the cardboard collar is about 50% thicker to withstand the tremendous suction the perfect unit produces.  I have never had the bag separate from the collar with the perfect bag, unlike others which have. 

Vernon