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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 10:12 pm

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First upright from Miele

29 February 2008

This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.

 It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and

 “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest

 of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following

 numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use

 an upright model.

Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com

Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009

Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

This message was modified Mar 20, 2009 by Trilobite
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catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner - New Discussion
Reply #382   Mar 23, 2009 10:53 am
Hmmm, I'm confused.  I replied to Venson and somehow that started a new discussion.  I'm not sure what I did wrong.  Does anyone know how to fix that?

Melanie

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner - New Discussion
Reply #383   Mar 23, 2009 11:22 am
catlady wrote:
Hmmm, I'm confused.  I replied to Venson and somehow that started a new discussion.  I'm not sure what I did wrong.  Does anyone know how to fix that?</p><p>Melanie

I don't know but I was wondering how you did it. It may have been me as I noticed my post to you looks like a quote. Well, not to worry -- message received.

Venson
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #384   Mar 23, 2009 11:58 am
Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #385   Mar 23, 2009 12:48 pm
SEVERUS wrote: "Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. "
THANK YOU, SEVERUS, FOR PROVING MY POINT!  No matter what happens now, Miele and Melanie both lose. Miele has lost the opportunity to keep faith with a customer, and who knows how much business, and Melanie loses time and energy, and can never be anything but the b*tchy ole catlady to the vac shop because they broke faith and want to blame her.
Melanie and all: I called Lindhaus today, and asked for Al Carpenter by name. Al was busy, but Bill was very pleasant. I asked him just to log on and read the thread to see what his supposed competition is up to in the customer service arena. I do not know what, if anything, they can or will do, but everyone who will ever buy a vacuum needs to know what Miele is really like when  it's time to make good on the "Immer Besser" spiel. Obviously Miele dealers do not read this forum, or there would be a tsunami of outrage from them. Dealers and reps who really care and work hard to keep faith with their customers will continue to lose business over this one incident. I hope they wise up, tell Miele to pack sand where 141cfm can't pull it out, and give Lindhaus,Sebo, Simplicity/Riccar and Emer a call.
Thanks again, Severus. All who will boycott Miele because of this instance, please post it here, and every Miele sale that is thwarted in favor of another brand, please post it here. Let's show Miele just how much they have saved on this replacement and see if they can figure out how to save their a**es.
The gloves are off as far as I am concerned,
Trebor
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #386   Mar 23, 2009 1:36 pm
Severus wrote:
Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. 

Hi Severus,

I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. Though I thoroughly understand that the point is moot, the issue is that the independent dealer/authorized service facility by lack of forethought -- and by lack of a little looking -- botched what should have been a simple repair. From the sound of it, even more heinous, is appears highly likely they didn't even get original parts for the initial repair. All that is no fault of Miele's whose position is that, or so they told me, the repair people should be responsible for setting things right, not the company nor at the company's expense.

It would be great if Miele replaced the whole machine but that would, I think, let the brilliant folks at the repair shop off the hook and they don't deserve to be. Explain to me how I may step forward to honor a debt that YOU owe and later hold you accountable for it? Unless the dealer who did the damage agrees to reimbursing the manufacturer in advance of replacement what's to be done? In this case save for the hose, the cleaner operates well and as there is no damage or defect regarding the rest of the machine I'd settle for the replacement of the back panel at the dealer's expense. Anyway . . .

My two Mieles are great and thus far have presented me with no problems. The purchases were intended to at last expose myself to a little bit extra of luxury -- like giving up Melmac for bone china. HOWEVER, I have long been vociferous that Miele and several other niche-brand vacuums are not the only game in town due to ridiculously high prices. There are other far less expensive machines that will do the same work as well or better. Purchases of vacuums at the $1,000 a pop or above should only be made if they are easily affordable to the buyer.

Here I also repeat myself. If you are not out to impress the neighbors with state-of-the-art gizmos and merely want a decent, worthwhile machine consider rebuilt or refurbished metal Luxes, Kirbies, Tristars, etc. They're good, they're tough and can carry even heard-hearted users a long way down the road with reasonable care. If you just must have new but have to consider the pocket book -- check out Hoover/TTI and Kenmore, etc. None of these may be your dream machine but they'll get work done.

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #387   Mar 23, 2009 2:25 pm
Severus wrote:
Just reading through this blog, I would be very hesitant to purchase any Miele product given the shoddy treatment she's received.  I used to think that it might be nice to buy a Miele someday, but that will never happen.  There are too many other companies who stand behind their products. 


Hi Severus,

I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water.   Venson

By all accounts, Melanie's MIELE S7 is a 'test' model that is for demo and display by the dealer[s].  Not for sale to the general public.  There is a story here in the story which we don't have and didn't get.

Carmine D.

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #388   Mar 23, 2009 2:38 pm
My understanding was that by purchasing a prototype, I would complete surveys with what I liked/didn't like about the vacuum so that Miele could improve them before actually releasing them.  I completed 3 surveys before the Miele S7 was officially released.  My Vac Shop received 6 to sell under those conditions.  It wasn't a floor demo model or an in store test model.  Unless I misunderstood something along the way??

Melanie

catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #389   Mar 23, 2009 2:54 pm
Venson wrote:
It would be great if Miele replaced the whole machine but that would, I think, let the brilliant folks at the repair shop off the hook and they don't deserve to be. Explain to me how I may step forward to honor a debt that YOU owe and later hold you accountable for it? Unless the dealer who did the damage agrees to reimbursing the manufacturer in advance of replacement what's to be done? In this case save for the hose, the cleaner operates well and as there is no damage or defect regarding the rest of the machine I'd settle for the replacement of the back panel at the dealer's expense. Anyway . . .



Venson,

You do make a good point.  When I initally contacted Miele it was to let them know that I was a "test" household and that even though the Miele is now released, I am now having XYZ problems with the vacuum.  I guess it started out as an FYI and then when I wasn't getting satisfaction from my Vac Shop, I called them back and kind of laid everything on their shoulders.  It really is up to my Vac Shop to rectify this issue.  They ordered the wrong replacement hose, they damaged the vacuum during repair, they offered a shoddy fix to the damage and gave me a hard time about actually replacing the damaged part.  However, Miele needs to know about the service I am receiving from the Vac Shop.  Just from dealing with my Vac Shop recently, I can tell you there is no way they will replace the vacuum.  They didn't even want to replace the correct part that they damaged.  I also remember that Miele made the vacuum I now own and I have had 3 issues with the product already.  The initial hose breakage, the vacuum not leaning down all of the way, and the indicator not working properly.  Not including the bad hose replacement and damage.

We'll see what happens from here.  I still have not received a call back from Miele from my call around 9:30 this morning.  I'm going to contact my Vac Shop later today to see if the hose has been replaced and if I can pick up my vacuum tonight and use it until either a replacement or my back panel is ready.

Melanie

RAD1


Joined: Dec 6, 2008
Points: 17

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #390   Mar 23, 2009 3:26 pm
This message was modified Mar 23, 2009 by RAD1
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #391   Mar 23, 2009 3:34 pm
catlady wrote:
My understanding was that by purchasing a prototype, I would complete surveys with what I liked/didn't like about the vacuum so that Miele could improve them before actually releasing them.  I completed 3 surveys before the Miele S7 was officially released.  My Vac Shop received 6 to sell under those conditions.  It wasn't a floor demo model or an in store test model.  Unless I misunderstood something along the way??

Melanie



Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you posted early on in recanting one of your conversations with MIELE that you purchased a "test" model from your local vacuum store.  To which, the MIELE person[s] expressed a mild degree of shock. 

Carmine D.

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