Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

1)  Nov 21, 2007 James Dyson t.v. commercial parodied on Saturday Night Live.

2)  March 17, 2009:  While many independent vacuum dealers bad-mouth, lie of and/or dismiss James Dyson and his teams contributions, many others champion the man.  Watch James Dyson in his element - in his Malmesbury Headquarters.  NBC’s “Today Show”  http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&vid=71fa9222-10d2-413c-bf31-0007895697ac

2)  Older video news:  I could not resist...  A Hottie car-news chick mentions the rumor of Dyson working with car makers, and Oreck gets a mention too (funny).

www.blinkx.com/video/hamann-stallion-audi-a7-fast-lane-daily-24jun08/JQ18e2m7y5hiULCgEQWSvw

Missed that one when it previewed here.  Couldn't find it here for an encore.

Carmine D.

It's there, the post reads something to the effect...  hey buyer, you do not want a Dyson and/or the nations only {exclusive only to Dyson] steerable.  And was instead pointed towards and/or purchased a collection sack/filter machine?


DIB

Thanks for trying, but can't say this scenario rings even a vague sound of a bell for me here on this Forum. 

Carmine D.

It makes no difference to me.        DIB

Older video news:  I could not resist...  A Hottie car-news chick mentions the rumor of Dyson working with car makers, and Oreck gets a mention too (funny).

www.blinkx.com/video/hamann-stallion-audi-a7-fast-lane-daily-24jun08/JQ18e2m7y5hiULCgEQWSvw

"Oreck gets a mention too........."

I haven't viewed, but the above jogged my memory to note the following.  As I mentioned, ORECK [Tom Oreck, the CEO] was pleased with its 2008 sales.  Probably, the first to go public with a statement about 2008 results of all the vacuum makers.  And he thought it fared much better than most other brands.  He's probably right.  Why?  Read on.

HOOVER/TTI has ORECK in its sights with the latest bagged lightweight upright and companion compact canister.  DC18 Slim and DC24 are no doubt dyson's product competition directly against ORECK and the lightweight vacuum market.  And now, BEST BUY stores is giving away a free DDC16 [$149 MSRP] handheld with purchase of a DC25 Ball Animal for $549.  A page right out of the ORECK playbook.  Hard times call for desperate measures.  What works and let's get on board.

Carmine D.

Witvac.com and BestVacuum.com are also giving away DC16 handhelds with the purchase of any Dyson vacuum. IMO, the DC18 would have made an excellent Oreck competitor it they could have dropped some weight, added a lighter weight DDM motor, and perhaps jettisoned the Telescope wand altogether. Too bad it's discontinued with no chance of return; the DC24 is too much of a novelty vacuum to me, and is too expensive in comparison to other more capable machines in the line up.

CarmineD wrote:
Yeah but the punchline is -- the DDC16 probably wasn't moving that well in the first place. $149.00 a pop was a bit much for something that can't give at least 10 or 15 minutes of cleaning time. There was also a second version I believe that had a small electric cleaning head and priced somewhere around the $200.00 mark. Is this a bargain or are they just saving face?

At least Oreck has been offering financing arrangements to make its pricing a little less hard to swallow.

Venson

The HOOVER/TTI accucharge battery powered cordless, not yet added to the BEST BUY store venues, may be the ultimate winner down the road, over the more expensive shorter run time dyson DC16.  The latter [DC16] has almost 3 years on the market and it still suffers from its initial shortcomings:  Too high a price and too short a run time.  Time for a newer model, perhaps the HOOVER/TTI?

http://www.hoover.com/product.aspx?model=BH50015&ds=false

Note too that the ORECK finance terms have recently gotten better AND HOOVER/TTI offers TV sales of the lightweight bagged upright and compact canister with 5 payments of $90.  Another page taken right from the ORECK playbook.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
The Hoover/TTI hand vac has a list price of $149, typically selling via Amazon at $129, verses the DC16, selling at $149 - so not a huge difference in price.

The Dyson offers a filter that typically requires cleaning every 6months or so, verses the Hoover which looks like it needs a filter cleaning after emptying.

x2 the running time? Compared to what? The leading Lithium Ion based hand cleaners or NIcad cleaners? Notice, that they don't state these details or the actual run time.

It's possible that the Hoover *could* achieve a longer run time than the Dyson, as there is a power level at which the Dyson has to cut out, before the cyclone separation becomes ineffective, whereas the Hoover could continue running with reduced performance. So, to say you could continue to get twice the run time, but with a gradually reduced pickup that might not be suitable for the job at hand. In affect, if the Dyson was better at picking up, you might generally be spending less time anyway.

With the data we have (or rather we don't have) this Hoover branded product appears far from impressive. It really needs a comparitive product review to see if it could make the grade.