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DysonInventsBig


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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message   Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm
~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~

James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.


  • Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
  • The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
  • The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.

  • The DDM is extremely powerful.
  • The DDM can/will outlast its user.
  • The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
  • The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
  • Controls are in the hose handle.
  • A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle.  Telescopic wand.
  • A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update...
  • Exclusive:  Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding.  Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
  • Exclusive:  Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
  • Exclusive:  Patented Telescopic Wand:  Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
  • Exclusive:  Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
  • Motor burn out:  If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
  • Size:  Small, DC05 - like.  Compacts down via the patented TW.
  • Controls:  In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
  • Retail:  $799.  Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #98   Mar 31, 2009 4:38 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

A:  Neither.  It’s just smarter than some of the clumsy bloated nozzles that are on the market.  I only through in some benefits of the small sized DC22 - on the “Beat on Dyson DDM DC22 day”.  I hope it was okay to contribute?


Q:  The $50 cheapie you mention...  is it not true it filters [mechanically] exactly like every sacked clogNchoke vacuum on the planet, including the euro so-called exotic’s?

DIB


Firstly, expressing a contrary opinion to yours is not "beat on dyson day."  It's call exchange of diverse vacuum opinions.

Second, I have owned and used my pint sized HOOVER since August 2007.  I use genuine HOOVER filter bags at about $2 a pop.  No upgrades.  Since it has a 'full-bag indicator" I use the feature to tell me when to replace the bag.  I've used this mighty pint sized vacuum to clean up an assorted plethora of household and garage clean up jobs.  It fits perfectly on the paint can platform of my Werner ladder and consequently gets alot of horrendous jobs in side and out.  Love the cord-winder on it too.  No cord to hassle with in transport.  The two filters, pre and post, both washable and reusable, are still in pristine condition.  Unbelievable.  Even the bag compartment is remarkably clean during bag changes.  $50  Made in China.  Wonderful!

BTW, I gifted one to a petite user several months ago for cleaning, of all things, her fireplace ashes.  SHE LOVES IT!!!

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #99   Mar 31, 2009 4:47 pm
PS: On the HOOVER cann:  My dear Wife recently purchased a HOOVER Turbo Tool for $3.95, a discount of 90 percent from retail $39.95.  I use this HOOVER turbo tool on the HOOVER cann for the pet's bed and bed coverings where she sleeps when we are out of the house [sneaky little devil].  Works great for snagging up all the lab hair quickly and easily.  No hair gets on the filters or in the bag compartment.  Remarkable.

Carmine D.

iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #100   Mar 31, 2009 6:54 pm
&lt;BR&gt;<BR> bucks03 wrote:
The only thing I don't agree on is that Dyson have these other seemingly normal sized Dyson the DC14 and DC25 for example have a chasis that is similar in size to my DC04 and these machines have such a small bin capacity, when I look at the bin it seems like most of the space is kept for the shroud where the space could be used a bit more for more dirt to collect.  I looked at the DC22 - why is there such a small space for the dirt, the shroud is so big!  My Dyson DC05 is very small but there is quite a bit of space for the dirt to collect.&lt;BR&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;

I strongly agree about the debris capacity of the newer uprights, specifically the DC24, DC25, and DC27. Those are full sized machines with mid-sized containers. I'm assuming they reduced the size of the bins for the purpose of weight reduction, but from this, they aren't slashing that much weight off the machine. I think bigger bins are the way to go.

On the left is the DC25 as it is today. To the right of it is my version that I feel would further benefit pet owners, as well as those who don't vacuum too often.

This message was modified Mar 31, 2009 by iMacDaddy
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #101   Mar 31, 2009 8:13 pm
Good digital job.  It looks perfect.

The taller larger (DC14 vice DC21) bin should make for a better filtering vacuum, but with the smaller diameter lightweight bin’s, it may not make that much difference.  Cost and weight are factors for sure, but caring the vacuums without them “feeling” heavy is a huge issue.  The DC18 probably “feels” heavier than the DC25, even though it weighs less.  Additionally carrying the vacuums up stairs without the vac hitting the stair treads or risers is a goal too.  Dyson has got to have a vac that can be carried up stairs as easily/nearly as easy as the Oreck.  Hoover believes in it and included an Oreck-like mid-handle on their Oreck-knock off.  I must believe this is a big selling feature and request.

DIB






CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #102   Apr 1, 2009 7:50 am
CarmineD wrote:

Second, I have owned and used my pint sized HOOVER since August 2007.  I use genuine HOOVER filter bags at about $2 a pop.  No upgrades.  Since it has a 'full-bag indicator" I use the feature to tell me when to replace the bag.  The two filters, pre and post, both washable and reusable, are still in pristine condition.  Unbelievable.  Even the bag compartment is remarkably clean during bag changes.  $50  Made in China.  Wonderful!

Carmine D. 



Mea culpa.  The bags, 5 to a pcakage, plus a primary and secondary filter, retail for $5.99.  I am currently using the 3 rd bag that came with the new vacuum.  One inside the vacuum, when bought new, and 2 spares.  I've used the vacuum since August 2007, or almost a year and one half and just put new bag 3 in [full indicator was not engaged].  By year 3, at the current usage rate, I'll be ready for bag 5 and the 2 filter replacements, which are recommended for replacement with each 5th bag change.  Another feature I like about this 'cheapo' is the suction reduction.  A 'rheostat' suction control that increases and decreases suction. 

Hope that helps.

BTW, wonderful graphics on the dysons.  Nice work! 

Carmine D.

bucks03


Joined: Feb 17, 2008
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #103   Apr 1, 2009 3:37 pm
The specs are good it shows the difference. You see that the 'older' Dyson DC07 has the biggest capacity of all the newer ones.  The very first Dysons in the UK had big 4 litre capacity,  no other Dysons after the DC01 DC02 DC04   hold this much dirt.    I liked the wacky colours Dyson used to use for the De Stijl, Clear and Antarctica models.

Not sure why but the latest models do not excite me very much but I am glad to hear that Dyson reliability is better.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #104   Apr 2, 2009 1:21 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Firstly, expressing a contrary opinion to yours is not "beat on dyson day."  It's call exchange of diverse vacuum opinions.

Carmine D. 


Contrary opinion[s]?  Probably.  Fault-finding?  Mostly.

If you were a true vacuum cleaner connoisseur you would of celebrated Sir James’s DDM DC22‘s break-thru inventions and benefits, the decades-old benchmarks it has destroyed and the new benchmarks it set. - And then follow up with your “exchange of diverse vacuum opinions”.

Digital motors are the future, I expect Dyson copy-cat manufacturers are again looking to Dyson to “show them the way”, that is...  they have their patent lawyers and engineers pouring over Dyson's DDM and patents to learn how to best-copy James’ digital motor-radically advanced filtration lead.

Nothing on the planet can touch Dyson’s new benchmarks and benefits and you’re watching it go by.


DIB
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CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #105   Apr 2, 2009 2:17 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Contrary opinion[s]?  Probably.  Fault-finding?  Mostly.

If you were a true vacuum cleaner connoisseur you would of celebrated Sir James’s DDM DC22‘s break-thru inventions and benefits, the decades-old benchmarks it has destroyed and the new benchmarks it set. - And then follow up with your “exchange of diverse vacuum opinions”.

Digital motors are the future, I expect Dyson copy-cat manufacturers are again looking to Dyson to “show them the way”, that is...  they have their patent lawyers and engineers pouring over Dyson's DDM and patents to learn how to best-copy James’ digital motor-radically advanced filtration lead.

Nothing on the planet can touch Dyson’s new benchmarks and benefits and you’re watching it go by.


DIB


DIB:

Today is April 2.  Yesterday was April Fool's Day!  You're a day late with this joke!  Performance and price not patents sells vacuums.  Dyson boasts 50 plus patents for its DC27.  Meaningless filler.  It's gotten ONE and ONLY one review to date from a SAM's Club buyer on Dce 28, 2008.  Not an impressive number of buyers/owners for a vacuum that you heard and said is a "GREAT" machine.  Time will tell.... but at least for now I don't see this DC27 product, like the DDM DC22, setting any records for sales among retailers and vacuum buyers.  My opinion.  Not fault finding.  Just being realistic.  I'm not overly entralled as you are over dyson products especailly those that aren't even tried and tested as yet.  Still nothing from the VDTA on the DDM DC22.  I suppose they just are not true vacuum connoisseurs!  Like me. 

Carmine D.

mole


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #106   Apr 2, 2009 2:22 pm
WHAT !!! WHATS IT COST ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND,IM OFF TO THE LOCAL YARD SALE.

SEE YA

regards

MOLE

CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #107   Apr 3, 2009 7:35 am
mole wrote:
WHAT !!! WHATS IT COST ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND,IM OFF TO THE LOCAL YARD SALE.

SEE YA

regards

MOLE



So in other words, MOLE, you're telling propspective vacuum buyers to can the high price imports and buy a used Diamond Jubilee and/or some such model at a local yard sale for $10, $15, $20 and take into an independent vacuum store owner/operator for a refurb/repair!  I have to agree.  Maybe even put on eBay for a few thousand $.

Carmine D.

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