Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Heres something for you all to check out,THE OCEAN BLUE,

Looks like rexairs cousin,the power head and tools are top shelf..............

MOLE

Big V ,

WESSEL-WERKS AND CEN-TEC  are the 2 biggies in [ATTACHMENT WORLD],

Sort of like the REDSOX and YANKEES RIVALRY.


MOLE

Hi Mole,

Good stuff to know.  Thanks for passing on the info on about Cen-Tec.   Just checked out its website -- http://www.centecsystems.com/index.htm

Cen-Tec appears to manufacture a coupe lines of vacums for Europe besides accessories.  I also saw the "Sears" power nozzles in its line of products. 

However, how does this work?  Do Cen-Tec and Wessel-Werks solicit manufacturers or is the other way round?  For instance, when a new machine design is in the works by a manufacturer, does the company merely look through a catalog of some sort to pick and choose ready-made accessories?  Does either Cen-Tec or Wessel-werks manufacturer to designer specifications?

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:
Hi Venson,

As far as i know cen-tec and  wessel-werks are strickly in the attachment business, cen-tec is very heavily involved with the central vacuum market, they private label for a host of central manufactures,The SEARS powernozzles have been centec for many years [this is why the sears canisters were always at the top of the pack in ratings] ,

Wessel-WERKS is the CEN-TEC of Europe,many vacuum mfg's in europe use Wessel-Werks,[EVEN DYSON],

Note, that SEBO, LINDHAUS, make their own powerheads,

The market is closed to the average over the counter consumer,you are referred to your closest dealer[ usually a vac shop or central vacuum dealer]. Im currently working on buying direct from the motor manufactures.

The more you buy the better the deal, you have to make it worth your and theirs time..............

later,,,,

MOLE

Hi Mole and Venson,

Thanks for the information about Cen-Tec and Wessel-Werk.  I haven't yet used the quiet-drive type (hopefully it doesn't differ too much from the original), but I've always thought the geared belt Cen-Tec was (and still is) a great powerhead in both construction and performance.  Talk about a tried-and-true time tested design, I hope those will continue to be produced and offered for centrals many years from now. 

-MH

Just looked at their website and the different product lines.. The Fakir upright look like a re-badged/updated Clarke Combi, but I don't know whether or not that machine is still in production.

About the Ocean Blue: Does it have decent suction?

Mister_Bojack wrote:

That I'd be curious to know as well.  Sounds a little off the wall but it has been explained to me that Rexair/Rainbow, for one, has never been noted for stellar suction because if suction is too high water will be sucked into fan chamber and/or motor.  Separators in these machines are meant to fling away water droplets that  fly  up from the basin.  I have heard of no formula describing the ratio of spin versus airflow required for them do their Iob. 

My guess is that you'd have to increase the distance between the water line and the separator and depend more on gravity to compensate for the extra water being whipped up by higher airflow.  The result, I think, would mean a not necessarily practical increase in size of the unit.  These machines are not popular due to weight already.  More bulk wouldn't help.

Venson

Mister_Bojack wrote:

It has enough to pull the dirt and dust into the tank. Standard issue rainbow e series motor , working suction around 70'' cfm,close to 85.........

mole

Venson wrote:
To be brief, the lookalike Rainbow was ROBOT.  I remember seeing the machine and noticing how much it looked like a Rainbow. 
Rexair wanted the company to make the Rainbow for them.  Later, this company backed out and made their own Rainbow lookalike.  Rexair did not like that, so they took them to court and vise versa. There have been other companies who have ventured on their own, to make their own version of a well known vacuum cleaner brand.

This Ocean Blue is owned by a company I would not get involved with, IMHO.  They sell more than vacuum cleaners and air cleaners.

I have seen the Ocean Blue before under a different name.  It used the same color scheme, but had a cheap hose, plastic wands, and a cheaper power nozzle.  With the OB, I noticed that they added a metal panel around the machine(the previous brand had grey plastic where the metal panel is), added a better hose and deluxe W-W nozzle.  The price is higher also.

Thanks Mike.

Venson