Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

If suction alone were the performance standard for uprights and rug cleaning you would be right.  It's not.  Just as MOLE's point that filtration and air flow are not the performance standard.  In fact far from it.

Don't believe MOLE  and me.  Read the post that Motor man has on another thread here.   Like you he is a dyson fan. 

Suction power [to pick up], brush roll design and function [ to agitate, loosen and groom], and filtration [to cool heated motor during operation and preserve the air quality in the room from the contained dirt/odors] all must combine in a perfect balance.  When these are present on upright vacuums the result is an efficient and effective machine to properly clean and groom rugs and carpets. 

Of course, it takes a user with the inclination, wherewithal, and time to put the vacuum to proper use.

Carmine D.

A big point is that manufactures tend to get so caught up in high tech,that they forget about the customer and [USER BENEFITS].

How many times have you heard customers complain about kirbys weight and attachment useage?

Another point of intrest to me is that [DO people still have shag carpeting?],

MOLE

Hey Carmine Man,

At the end of the day it is about physics and who puts forth (the basics) a vacuum that best uses
”in the public domain” 1)  off the shelf parts and/or 2) designs.  I am fully aware it takes many individual lengths to build a strong chain.  Dyson simply removed the weakest length…  Suction loss due to a clogged bag (and filter).

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Mole,

I answered your riddle within the framework of your post and no response?

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DIB

Hey Mr. DIB's:

I like that but prefer:  Hey, Carmine D. Vacuum Man.  Now you're talking physics and chemistry combined! 

It's always funny to read dyson fans' posts.  It's as tho the vacuum industry was in the dark ages until dyson suddenly appeared and rescued it.  Not quite.  Not even close.  In fact just the contrary.  

Dyson has a rough road to hoe.  With the competition like HOOVER, BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL {and yes even EUREKA} copying it and selling for less, dyson with its high prices is destined for extinction.  Especially in a deep recession and down global market with soaring oil prices.

One quote from dualcyclone/motor [don't know which] that I agree with [surprise, surprise] is this: Consumers don't remember who did it first, they remember who copied the best and sold it for less. 

 Carmine D.

Do I understand you?  Vacuums have basically been the same for 50 or more years.  Maybe a few color changes here and there.  Dyson has now been copied by almost all manufacturers and yet Dyson did nothing to change the industry.  Why didn't they just continue with bags that clogs and cause suction loss if Dyson didn't get the industry off it's ashes.

No doubt Dyson will have to change it's pricing to remain competetive with today's economy, however that is not justivication to imply that Dyson has not revolutionized the vacuum industry.  Your responses are as asinine as usual.

Hey DIBster:

Perhaps in the UK, I might partially agree.  Tho the dyson market share declines tell me otherwise.  Dyson competition has gained ground in the UK over the last 4 years and brands will probably surpass dyson's annual share of 28 percent in 2007, if not already. 

In the USA, I can't agree with you on any level.  Not with 10 percent of annual vacuum sales in units [at best and declining].  History is too recent to prove your statement accurate.  Time alone will tell.  If dyson doesn't succumb to the USA industry stalwarts like others have before [Fantom].   A fad that came and went.

Interestingly, in years past dyson sales results were posted here quarterly, semi-annually, and annually.  No more.  What happened?  An indication vacuum history is repeating itself [Fantom].

Carmine D.