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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Original Message   Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #56   Jul 2, 2008 7:06 am
dusty wrote:

If we used that logic would not all bag models have a permanent paper bag? 

Dusty



Dusty:

Close but no cigar.  More like a permanent cloth bag was long the vacuum vernacular in the industry I know and love.  Read on.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #57   Jul 2, 2008 7:10 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Gents:

MOLE, yes the paper bag fits inside a cloth permanent bag.  What sets this paper insert apart from others of the era [like the GE Cann] is the thin cardboard rim stitched and glued to the top of the paper bag.  It allows the paper bag to sit tightly inside the groove on the top of the rubber gasket on the cloth bag rim that fits in the vacuum.  Not surprised these are very hard to find and special orders.  Wonderful straight suction vacuum, very quiet, with a very clean exhaust air for its old age.  Lamb motor if I remember correctly.

Carmine D.

Hi Guys:

I took the liberty to repost this from June 29.  It was in response to MOLE on the thread about paper bags for the EUREKA rotomatic.  Nothing to do with dyson and thumb tabs and ubend airways.

Please note my use of permanent in the reply for the cloth bag.  Of course it's not.  Has to be removed to dump and clean.  But a vacuum vernacular for cloths going back to my era.

So goes the generation [perhaps 2] gap in vacuum communications my friends. 

Carmine D.

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JackD


Joined: Jun 30, 2008
Points: 6


Reply #58   Jul 2, 2008 8:14 am
So you are saying the paper bags and filters that we replace on vacuums are "permanent" pieces?  Trying to figure out what the fuss was all about I stopped by a Best Buy and looked at a Dyson.  That "upbend" thing slid off with a push of a thumb.  Kind of seems like it would come in handy to get stuff out that you probably shouldn't have run over in the first place.  Store staff said it has always done this.  What am I missing?
M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295


Reply #59   Jul 2, 2008 8:30 am
Dyson is rumoured to be gearing up and putting a new model in to production during September :-

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/2/business/21702103&sec=business

The article mentions printed circuit boards as part of the new contract - I wonder if this is significant?
Some of the uprights in the past have included small circuit boards (DC15) for brushbar power supply switching, does anyone know if any of the current crop have them?

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dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264


Reply #60   Jul 2, 2008 10:05 am
JackD wrote:
So you are saying the paper bags and filters that we replace on vacuums are "permanent" pieces?  Trying to figure out what the fuss was all about I stopped by a Best Buy and looked at a Dyson.  That "upbend" thing slid off with a push of a thumb.  Kind of seems like it would come in handy to get stuff out that you probably shouldn't have run over in the first place.  Store staff said it has always done this.  What am I missing?

You're not missing anything.  Carmine has a slightly different definition of permanent.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #61   Jul 2, 2008 12:39 pm
Hello Dusty:

And it's not just for dyson, witness the repost on the "permanent" cloth bags.  Thank you, Dusty. 

 Carmine D.

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Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409


Reply #62   Jul 2, 2008 1:31 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Guys:

I took the liberty to repost this from June 29.  It was in response to MOLE on the thread about paper bags for the EUREKA rotomatic.  Nothing to do with dyson and thumb tabs and ubend airways.

Please note my use of permanent in the reply for the cloth bag.  Of course it's not.  Has to be removed to dump and clean.  But a vacuum vernacular for cloths going back to my era.

So goes the generation [perhaps 2] gap in vacuum communications my friends. 

Carmine D.


Carmine, that statement would hold water IF there was a portion on the U-bend that was thrown away and replaced periodically.  The term "permanent cloth bag" makes perfect sense to distinguish between the bag that is not disposable and the paper liner that is.  But there's no such thing here, and once again, we caught you red-handed and we'll see how you lie your way out of this one, like so many other statements you repeat and believe

Chalk up another fairy tale!

-MH
Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409


Reply #63   Jul 2, 2008 1:57 pm
M00seUK wrote:
Dyson is rumoured to be gearing up and putting a new model in to production during September :-

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/2/business/21702103&sec=business

The article mentions printed circuit boards as part of the new contract - I wonder if this is significant?
Some of the uprights in the past have included small circuit boards (DC15) for brushbar power supply switching, does anyone know if any of the current crop have them?


Hi Moose, that will be the DC27 which will be launched in the United States in October.  At this time I can't divulge any more details.

-MH
dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264


Reply #64   Jul 2, 2008 4:18 pm
Quick! Somebody contact David Oreck!  He'll be glad to know he can now advertise the new permanent belt feature :-)

Dusty
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #65   Jul 2, 2008 4:31 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Carmine, that statement would hold water IF there was a portion on the U-bend that was thrown away and replaced periodically. 
-MH


From my perspective, obviously the minority, your statement proves my point that the u-bend airway joint is permanent.  No part of it should be unused/replaced/thrown away.  Thank you, Motor.

Carmine D.

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