Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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I get vacuum cleaner news pushed to me via Google news alerts.  James Dyson and his vacuums make up the greater majority of talk via news, blogs, forums, online magazines, etc.  It is comical how many vacuum manufacturers cannot deliver needed and measurable innovation and so they miss much free publicity the 15 year old Dyson LTD so enjoys and profits from.

Today's pushed news or alike I copied/pasted from my email alert...
 
Dyson DC24 Vacuum Review
Reviewboard Magazine - Chicago,IL,USA
Young and old, in good shape or a bit weak -- this portable vacuum cleaner (within your home) is a great addition to the Dyson line. Dyson’s vacuum cleaners ...

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http://www.reviewboard.com/2008_holiday_buyers_guide/4024-Dyson-DC24-Vacuum-Review.html


The Five I’s of Building Wealth
Motley Fool - USA
James Dyson became a billionaire by developing the bagless vacuum cleaner. His idea was initially rejected because it was seen as hurting vacuum bag sales. ...

http://caps.fool.com/blogs/viewpost.aspx?bpid=116278&t=01003357133075050748

Hi,

Just thought I'd throw this in the mix.  His lordship's heading for court again -- and  the product is not even in the stores yet . . .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/3702987/Sir-James-Dyson-in-High-Court-attempt-to-see-off-rival-vacuum-design.html

'Tis the season to be jolly?

Venson

Hi Venson:

Dyson does have a way of shooting itself in the foot.  First, moving production to Malaysia in 2002 and losing the UK vacuum market in 5 years.  Now suing Japanese Samsung over a yet to be released product/just a patent for it.  Regardless of the legal outcome, dyson will lose its second best vacuum market in the world: Japan.  Talk about marketing suicide?  When will dyson ever learn?  Sooner or later you can't sue the pants off your competitors, because they longer have pants.

Carmine D. 

Whats the big deal,who cares, why cant we be friends,why cant we be friends,why cant we be friends,

MOLE

mole wrote:
Because . . .

"They say the best things in life are free
But they can give 'em to the birds and bees.
I want some money, a whole lot of money.
I want some money -- that's all I want."

Wish I'd wrote that.

Venson

Venson wrote:
The subtext to all this would be good to know. I presume that Dyson, having invested in their own 3-stage (level 3 root) cyclone technology, don't want someone else sharing the limelight.
They won the legal case with the Hoover UK 'TriClone' on a strong point - they could demonstrate that blocking one of the cyclones actually improved the performance. It sounds a similar situation with Samsung. But, Samsung had a patent for a three-stage cyclone granted first? Both patents are described as being similar, so if Samsung happened to get there first, with no prior art, what could Dyson's case possibilly be? Or is the comparision that Samsung's 3-stage cyclone doesn't improve separation as dramaticly as Dyson's 3-stage, as thus they don't want them having an unfair marketing advantage?

Question . . . Does Dyson staff it own legal team or retain independent attorneys?

Venson

Kenneth J, as a poor engineering student, had a US patent on a ball facilitator wheel long before dyson's DC15 Ball [1996 vice 2003].  But Kenneth J had no product.  He lost his case in court in Washington DC on a legal technicality [thanks to a dyson 'hired' legal team that included New York's best and most expensive 3 name lawyers in 3 piece suits].  Samsung will have a few top notch lawyers too.  See what happens when the playing field is level.  In the meantime, the Japanese vacuum market will be a wasteland for dyson.  Japanese people are very loyal to their own.  Extremely so.  What was dyson thinking?

Hello Venson: 

I suspect dyson has both.  A legal counsel/office in house on the payroll and "hired guns" for the court fights.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Thanks Carmine,

I've been trying to figure out if these frivolous lawsuits (I see them that way) are cost effective for Dyson.  Then again the only way they can be is by winning.

Samsung is of formidable size and doesn't manufacture vacuums alone.  Its flat-screen TVs are getting good ratings and doing well here in the U.S.  Add in popular cell phones and other electronic devices plus household appliances I too think they'll be able to foot the legal bills.

If I were Dyson, I think I'd spend more time trying to move ahead by improving on what it makes and leave the courts alone.  Maybe the Samsung "Silencio" vac series got 'em upset. By the way . . .

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/type/type.do?group=homeappliances&type=vacuumcleaner#

Venson

Venson wrote:

Venson,

Better stock up on Samsung products before Dyson gets his share of their money.  Prices of Samsung goods will likely soar.