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DysonInventsBig


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The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Original Message   May 29, 2008 12:41 pm

ORECK - The business, the history, the machine, the man and related.

(Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)



  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008


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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #57   Jun 3, 2008 7:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello DIB:

T'is I my good Lad, Carmine D.  Have had only coffee, ice tea, and orange soda today like most days.  Mr. Daniels is reserved for limited and infrequent occasions.  Usually when I call upon and toast with others those men among men who came/left before me.

Carmine D.

Carmine:  I did go back and re-write and remove said remark, but you got to my post within seconds of posting and before the rewrite.  Lawsuits and the destruction they bring make me think before going full bore.  I've seen it happen first hand.  You may write for yourself but when hauled off to court over nonsense, the cost of it is covered by the family nut.  And so it is risky and so perhaps I wondered if  maybe Mr. D. was talking.  Good to hear you say no.        DIB


CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #58   Jun 3, 2008 7:44 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I used both.  Remember.  The 07 is a better performer IMO.  Have you used both?

Hello HARDSELL:

Used the DC07 yellow and pink in different homes on different carpets.  Not worth the money for the performance provided.  Unlike you, after I make a mistake once, I don't repeat it. I have no plans to buy and use a DC14, which is being discontinued amlong with the DC14.  If given to me, I would refuse. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #59   Jun 3, 2008 7:48 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
How do you imbed Kapok into the carpet?  I am willingto bet you that more homes have baking soda on the hard floors and in the carpet than they do Kapok.  I believe that I was the first to recommend baking soda as a test for vacuum performnce on hard surfaces.  It certainly is mor like dust than Kapok.



Hello HARDSELL:

You walk on it after you put it down.  The difficulty with kapoc like the household stuff it similates is that it clings to the rug/carpet.  Making it a worthy test for uprights.  That's the reason it is an industry test and has been for years.

The baking soda discussion is a moot/mute test.  It has no bearing and no relevance.  It's a non-issue for me and a non-test.  I have none in my house.  Don't plan to buy a box.  Not now.  Not ever.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #60   Jun 3, 2008 7:52 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
I know the word.  I know of no drug maker who’s been granted a limitless patent monopoly as you suggest.        DIB


Hello DIB:

It's a figure of speech.  If drug makers had their druthers, drugs would have indefinite patent expiration dates.  It behooves the drug makers, not the consumers.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #61   Jun 3, 2008 7:56 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Carmine: so perhaps I wondered if  maybe Mr. D. was talking.  Good to hear you say no.        DIB



Never happen.  A shot or two, at the most, several times a year.  That is my limit.  Too old, too wise.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #62   Jun 3, 2008 7:59 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello HARDSELL:

Used the DC07 yellow and pink in different homes on different carpets.  Not worth the money for the performance provided.  Unlike you, after I make a mistake once, I don't repeat it. I have no plans to buy and use a DC14, which is being discontinued amlong with the DC14.  If given to me, I would refuse. 

Carmine D.



Same for me about Oreck and Hoover.
CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #63   Jun 3, 2008 8:01 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Blaming inferior performance of the Oreck on a belt. You are as desperate as I have ever seen you.  If the belt has to be replaced so frequently on a demo unit or even if the Oreck has been sitting idle then maybe ol Dave should hire some Dyson engenieers and get in this century.  My be its that a Dyson will perform after sitting idle for years.

BTW, catlady did not say the Oreck was inferior to only the Miele.  She simply insinuated that it had poor performance.



HARDSELL:

Belts are made of rubber.  When stretched on a vacuum whether used or unused they have to be replaced after 6 months.  $3 at the ORECK store.  Less at other vacuum stores.  A few minutes to repalce by the user.  Viola.  Like new again.

Like I said, different strokes for different folks.   I'm pleased with the purchase of 4 new ORECK Classic XL-s and the 3 donees are too.  That's all that matters to me and my use of my $600!

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #64   Jun 3, 2008 8:03 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello HARDSELL:

You walk on it after you put it down.  The difficulty with kapoc like the household stuff it similates is that it clings to the rug/carpet.  Making it a worthy test for uprights.  That's the reason it is an industry test and has been for years.

The baking soda discussion is a moot/mute test.  It has no bearing and no relevance.  It's a non-issue for me and a non-test.  I have none in my house.  Don't plan to buy a box.  Not now.  Not ever.

Carmine D.



You still can't imbed it in carpet.

No meaning nor relevence to you because it would defeat you.  How much kapok do you kep in the house?  Remember,  you are not the only one whose opinion counts. Many homes have baking soda.

ANYONE WHO HAS MORE  KAPOK THAN BAKING SODA IN THEIR HOME PLEASE TELL US.

CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #65   Jun 3, 2008 8:17 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
You still can't imbed it in carpet.

No meaning nor relevence to you because it would defeat you.  How much kapok do you kep in the house?  Remember,  you are not the only one whose opinion counts. Many homes have baking soda.

ANYONE WHO HAS MORE  KAPOK THAN BAKING SODA IN THEIR HOME PLEASE TELL US.



You're silly bordering on ridiculous.  Kapoc is an industry test for carpet cleaners.  Has been for years.  Most if not all independent vacuum stores use it.  It simulates real life home grown rug and carpet debris like pet hair, thread, wool and cotton nap.  All these cling to rugs and carpet surfaces.  Making it a valid test and substance usage.  What does baking soda similate? 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #66   Jun 3, 2008 8:26 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Same for me about Oreck and Hoover.



But not dyson!  Sold the DC07 after 3 years.  Bought a DC14.  Returned the DC14.  Bought a Royal Eminence?  No HARDSELL.  That doesn't compute with me.  Any more than a non-sensical baking soda test.  Make a mistake 40 years ago and chalk it up to youthful exuberance.  Make it again now? No pass this time. 

Still haven't re-bought the best brand you claim to have ever owned.  Although the prices are down to $299 before discounts and cash back. 

Carmine D.

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