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DysonInventsBig


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The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Original Message   May 29, 2008 12:41 pm

ORECK - The business, the history, the machine, the man and related.

(Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)



  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008


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DysonInventsBig


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #112   Jun 20, 2008 6:20 am
dusty wrote:
While I don't doubt you love your Oreck I think to say that ALL Oreck customers praise Oreck for honoring warranties is a bit of a stretch.  A quick search on the net finds not everyone quite as pleased as yourself.

http://www.rateitall.com/i-6320-oreck-xl-series-upright.aspx

I am curious to know your thoughts on the Oreck Air Cleaner, something that many consider one of the worst products on the market yet it is still pushed heavily by Oreck and its stores.

Dusty

May be of interest…
Hunters Senior Vice President of Sales – Art Massey (formerly Hunter’s vice president of marketing and product development) 
demoed an air purifier on HSN back in February, 2008.  During the demonstration he said, “I coined this phrase here on HSN 
about 8 years ago folks, and this is the truth…  But you hear the other guy (Oreck) say it and he stole it from me and that’s a fact!” 
 “If you’re going to clean the air then you have to move the air.”




CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #113   Jun 20, 2008 6:23 am
HARDSELL wrote:

The Dyson DC14 is the best vacuum cleaner we ever bought. Despite its price it is well worth every cent.



HARDSELL:

The last statement you excerpted and I quoted is the most relavant.  Why?  Was this the poster and statement that resulted in you selling the DC07 and buying the DC14?  What did you do after buying the DC14?  Return it because you didn't like it.  The poster is claiming that the dyson you bought and returned because you were dissatisfied with it, is the best and worth the money.  That contradicts your actions.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #114   Jun 20, 2008 6:30 am
Dusty:

Obviously, no product pleases everyone.  People being people are all different.  ORECK is no exception.  As are ORECK buyers and users.  But a product that has a 45 year rep and respected standing in the industry with a nationwide network of stores totalling 475 is well on the way to trying.

Even HOOVER, during its glory days of having the majority vacuum market share year after year, had many detractors: They were called Lux, Kirby, Air Way, Filter Queen, EUREKA, and ORECK buyers and users.  And I could mention others.

Air purifiers are not on my agenda.  At least not yet. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #115   Jun 20, 2008 7:09 am
CarmineD wrote:
HARDSELL:

The last statement you excerpted and I quoted is the most relavant.  Why?  You went to great lengths to find a few posts that trashed ORECK and praised dyson.  I could do the same with any vacuum brands.  People being people, they all have different likes and dislikes. 

The last statement of your excerpt is key.  Why?  The dyson poster is claiming that the dyson you bought and returned because you were dissatisfied with it, is the best and worth the money.  That contradicts your actions.

Carmine D.



Carmine,

You are partially correct.  A search will reveal both satisfied and unsatisfied customers with all brands.  I coukd have excerpted more than a few posts reporting poor performance from Orecks.

I did not have to go to great lengths to find bad reviews about Oreck.  In fact there are more positive reviews.  The same applies to Dyson.  I agree that preferences vary.  My point is that Oreck users have problems that you deny as existing.  In my research I have found many more incidents of Orecks clogging than Dyson.  No need for you to rehash the Dyson filter clogging.  If a filter does not clog where does the dust go?  Since all vacuums that you favor are know for spewing dust maybe you can answer that.  Burned out belts are a major problem for Oreck. 

It is very possible that the DC 14 was the best vacuum that the poster ever owned since he never owned a DC 07.  That person did claim the Dyson was better than the Oreck.  I owned both and share that opinion.  Where is the contradiction?    BTW,  I never claimed the DC 14 to be a poor performer.  I just prefer the 07.  I also never claimed that my current vacuums are better than Dyson.  You have stated that the Oreck is better than your Hoovers.

This site alone has 5 persons giving 5 stars to Dyson and one giving 4 stars.  None of them bashed another brand.  On the other hand you are the only one to post on an Oreck and you (as usual) only reported so that you could trash Dyson in the same review.  Since you find the Oreck to be superior to Hoover why did you fail to mention that.  All who read your posts are aware of your vehement dislike for Dyson and likely place little or no credence in your statements. 

CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #116   Jun 20, 2008 7:12 am
HS:

I'd like to respond to you but it looks like this thread is heading off the screen.

Time to let it go else as Lucky1 says it will suffer the same ignominious end as the former.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #117   Jun 20, 2008 7:15 am
CarmineD wrote:
Dusty:

But a product that has a 45 year rep and respected standing in the industry with a nationwide network of stores totalling 475 is well on the way to trying.

Reputations are not always built on truths.  Priests were respected and trusted for hundreds of years.  I think you know why there is now some doubt about the clergy.

Air purifiers are not on my agenda.  At least not yet. 

They likely will not be since there are so many negatives on them.

Carmine D.
CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #118   Jun 20, 2008 7:17 am
HS:
 

45 years and 475 ORECK stores speaks volumes for the company that launched

the lightweight 8 pound vacuum upright.

BTW, correcting you.  HOOVER WT is better than ORECK on rugs.  But ORECK for the

weight is a worthy second.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #119   Jun 20, 2008 8:18 am
 “If you’re going to clean the air then you have to move the air.”

DIB:

This is a statement of fact you quoted.

Statements of fact are not "coined" by authors at the exclusion of use by all others.

If this gentleman believes they are, and you too, then he and you have a skewed sense of perspective.

Certainly one I do not hold.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #120   Jun 20, 2008 9:27 am
Reputations are not always built on truths.  Priests were respected and trusted for hundreds of years.  I think you know why there is now some doubt about the clergy.

HS:

This did not get passed me.  It's irrelevant in the thread here about vacuums.  I will be happy to engage you off line on the topic.  It is near and dear to my heart and my faith.  Jsut let me know.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Points: 1293

Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #121   Jun 20, 2008 4:16 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Reputations are not always built on truths.  Priests were respected and trusted for hundreds of years.  I think you know why there is now some doubt about the clergy.

HS:

This did not get passed me.  It's irrelevant in the thread here about vacuums.  I will be happy to engage you off line on the topic.  It is near and dear to my heart and my faith.  Jsut let me know.

Carmine D.



Why is it irrevelant?  I do not consider it to be blasphemous. .  You continually bash Dyson when it is not revelant to the topic.  I was only making a point that one can not always rely on reputation.

If it is too hot inthe kitchenm  GET OUT

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