Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

I'm not sure why Dyson has introduced washable Pre and Post motor filters.  I like the fact that on the previous models it was onlt the Pre Motor that required washing.  I suppose the reason Dyson has put on these new models is not because of the size but because Dyson had maybe identified that the lifetime Post Motor filter was not good in the long term.  My DC04 has lifetime Post Motor filter which has started leaking Carbon Dust becuase it has never been changed in 5 years, it has goty extreamly black and both the sides have discoloured.

I like the fact though I have never had to tough the Post Motor filer (Only once when I took the machine apart to change the whole body duct due to it cracking)   I know it is easy to just rinse the filter out but I find I'm not good with keeping with the filter cleaning intervals and the Pre Motor filter on My DC04 doesn't get overly coated with dust so I can go for around 11 months before washing my filter again and have done so.

My machine only has problems with filtering long human hairs sometimes which I find bypasses the Dual Cyclone and straight onto the Pre Motor filter but I have encountered this on Root Cyclone machines, the Root Cyclone does not filter better, just allows more airflow though, the only Dyson cyclones that filter better is the Mach on the DC17 and the Core technology on the DC22 as it has to pass through 2 'inner stages'.  However,  I wonder even if this is any better,  I mean why does the DC22 have to have its filters washed every 3 months???  If the Core technology can filter better then it should last longer than the previous models which were every 6 months surely!

I like the look of the DC24,  I also tried the DC25, which I think is a good machine also but I do not like the newer style Dyson tools, I think they look cheap, also the bin capacity is way too small on the DC25,  I know its a 'Slimline' vacuum but I'm sure Dyson could have made better use with the space on top of the bin.  The shroud is overly big and also the bin is not very tall.  I don't know about others but I don't like having to keep emptying my vacuum cleaner.

The DC24 is a nice machine though which should prove popular in smaller homes and flats with people who want a stylish vacuum cleaner.

I saw the dyson TV ad on ACCESS Hollywood.  I like the vintage black and white films

of the old metal EUREKA and HOOVER Uprights of many years ago.  Classic vacuums

for all the ages.  Thanks for posting.  Viewed the usage of the dyson DC24 on You tube.

The dirt bin on the DC24 fills up very quickly.  Just a few minutes of quick pick up and use.

It was ready for dumping.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi D.I.B., It seems to me that your blind faith to Sir Jimmy is sending you down the wrong way of a one way street.I and a few others have done very well in this business and have done it honestly and kept my integrity along with it.

I ve been at this business for 36 years  and have seen the evolutions in this industry.[Have You].?

Now im going to give you some valuable information on how people concieve vacuuming and cleaning their homes.90% of the public dont even want to do it this is why people hire housecleaners and landscapers.And most of the newer generation dont even know how to release a bin latch never mind about using attachments.

Do you really think that people care what color their vacuum cleaner is unless their into color matching their home interior colors.A vacuum cleaner picks up FILTH that humans and animals leave behind,it sounds real inticeing to use it doesnt it.

B.T.W it seems like dyson is following hoovers lead in product development,way to much of the same thing,just a few cosmetic changes here and there,nothing earth shattering.

MOLE

Mole,

 

Like I told Carmine, I like a good challenge.  And so at times, I will take you to task.  This is certainly more fun than the hand holding and like mindedness at the other site isn’t it?  You’re a feisty son-of-a-gun, and so if you want to “go at it” intelligently, then let me know.        DIB

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

The DC24 is designed for small environments, the frequent bin filling is no big deal.

What, no comment on Dyson’s “ass”et he placed into this ad?  Dyson is going for the male sale too.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

The DC24 is probably marketed to users like me with 1500 sq feet of carpet and barefloors. 

I have to check it out more closely and see upclose the dirt bin size.  If it's too small it will be problematic for me to dump frequently with daily vacuuming. 

Don't understand your second comment.

BTW, I hear tell that Mole is a self-made millionaire several times over and owns and operates a vacuum business just as a hobby to keep him busy.  Is that true?

Carmine D.

I went to the Best Buy internet site looking for the dyson DC24 and 25.  Both appear to be in stock and available at most stores including those in North Las Vegas. 

I was surprised however by the BB page banner with the heading "Featured Brands" for vacuums showing the following brand names: BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL and HOOVER.  Apparently, these 3 brands have the most number of models in BB stores. 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0911000&type=category

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

 

I know there are downsides to all vacuum purchases, value trade offs will always be with us.  The DC24 is a niche product or a second (upstairs) vacuum here in the U.S. mostly, I can see the DC24 potentially becoming a break-out upright in Japan.  Washing the filters monthly can get old although.

 

Sex sells they say.  When I first saw the ad, I noticed only James and his vacuum.  But after viewing a few times on my DVR, a woman with a nice “rear end” and wearing very tight jeans it seems was intentional and subliminal.  Check out my video at my hosting site.  Enlarging full screen and other video controls are much better there than on YouTube.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Too bad the woman with the nice derriere doesn't come with the DC24.  It would make my next vacuum purchase decision very easy.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

I have to admit, when first viewing this clip I did wonder this myself... hey, I'm a red-blooded guy with certain observational skills! But the inclusion is subtle and it's (I think) impossible to say if it was intentional.

As a side note, I understand that Dyson no longer uses an ad agency in the traditional role for TV ads. They prepare their creative briefs in-house and work with a director to bring the results to screen.

What's interesting about the more recent adverts is they make a point of underplaying the brand. i.e. the previous Airblade advert, of which the main objective doesn't appear to be to create awareness of Airblade, but simply to say "Hey, I'm James Dyson - you already know my company makes... here's something else we're doing...". "aren't we the greatest? - keep buying the vacs!"
 
This latest 'ball' advert says "This is something that has unknowingly caused you grief in the past". "This is why.." (shows four wheeled model). "This is a ball - look it moves nicely". Then there's a blink and you'll miss it shot of a vacuum with a ball going around the corner.

It's the classic persuasive sales role. It's not telling you that you should buy the vac. It's highlighting the problem and offering you a remedy and the path to a solution which will play on the mind of people... while they're pushing their 4-wheel uprights around their house.

What's most surprising to me is that they're relaunching 'the ball' with a decent amount of publicity and it's like the first launch never happened.