Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

I've just test driven the new DC25 here in the US.  I agree with DC18 and I am generally impressed with the DC25. There are many improved features over previous models although it does have less cyclones that the Absolute(5 vs. 8). The suction and air-flow were impressive, even with less cyclones, and the handling was light and generally easy to steer. The new valve system which keeps the suction in the floor head until the wand is pulled up is a very welcome addition. The model was fairly quiet when running with or with out the motorized brush bar.

Another couple of interesting things to add about the DC25:

-The motor is located inside the ball, thus giving a lower center of gravity and easier control.
-There is a secondary filter located inside the ball(which is also where the exhaust port is located, thus the new vents.) This filter is a more solid(poly-reinforced) type filter unlike the foam in a frame filter located above the cyclones. It must also be cleaned every 3 months, by rinsing then smacking it down 10 times, then letting dry for 24 hours(as opposed to 12 hours for the foam filter.) To access the filter, the vacuum must be placed in a fully reclined position upon which a tab can be pressed to access the hatch. As a side note, the ball can feel pretty warm directly after use(probably because of the motor and exhaust port.)

Haven't seen the DC24 yet, but I am pretty sure I will purchase the DC25 in the near future.

DC25:

Nice review, thanks.  How much is the DC25?

Carmine D.

DC18,

I somehow got it in my head early on, that the DC25 performance was par with all Dyson full sized uprights.  I was wrong, sorry.       

 

James wants his potential consumers to judge suction strength on “Airwatts (Suction Power)” and so it seems the DC25 is the better choice in terms of handle weight, overall weight and maneuverability compared to the DC15 but the downside is more pre-filter washing.  I’ve read almost all James’ cyclone patents and did some testing and observing on my own, there are a lot of variables that go into making a good or “perfect” cyclonic vacuum cleaner.  Many things I discovered are not mentioned in his patents.  James only used enough verbiage in his patent claims only so to get his physical invention patented but not unnecessarily give away the trade secrets to HIS cyclonic’s.  Certainly the DC22/23 look to be the “perfect” or near perfect cyclonic filtering vacuum cleaner.        DIB

Carmine,

The DC25 is $499.99 while the DC24 is $399.99.

Thank you, DC25. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

But you knew that already didn't you Carmine ;-)

So that means Dyson has changed the valve design for the 3rd time.  The first Dyson DC01 and DC03 used to have no suction until the wand was unclipped from the main body but the valve had already transferred the suction to the wand but there was a seal preventing any suction which meant handly any anirflow going to the motor so the motor pitch would rise quite a but (My old DC03 was VERY noisy with its tiny 700 watt motor).

Dyson then went to the DC04, 07 and 14, 15, 18 etc etc with havig full suction at the wand with just a Cap covering this which I felt created extra noise also.

The addition with this new valve design in the DC24 and 25 - Suction at the head until the wand is unclipped is a welcome addition,  I suspect its to help keep the machine quiet and is safer than having full suction at the wand when upright or the extra strain on motor as on the first models.

Dyson seems to be getting better with reliability which were big issues in UK with the first generation models.

Acerone wrote:

No Ace, I didn't.  If it was mentioned already, I missed it.  The last I looked at the dyson site, it wasn't there.  And I didn't see it on the comparative dyson uprights' post.  So I asked.

I looked at the dyson site and see the prices.  Also appears that the "ball" technology is dyson's signature upright IMHO.  They get top billing and exposure.

Carmine D.

Hi DC25

Nice write up on the DC25 model by the way.  I forgot to mention about the filter in the ball housing!  So you where impressed by this model.  Now that I have test driven the DC25 I have to say I prefer it over my DC15!

DC18

Hi DIB

Thats ok.  I have to say the DC25 is very impressive and it a very welcome leap forward from the DC15.  Yes the filter washing is a downside but the performance is a leap forward from previous models.  As for the filter washing I don't always wash mine every 6 months, i can go longer and the filter is not that dirty.  I think it depends on what your using the vac for and the area you live in.  So the 3 months on the DC25 I could probably get away with 6 months!!

DC18