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M00seUK
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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm |
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #233 Apr 3, 2008 7:29 pm |
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Hi DIB ... Yes the filter washing is a downside but the performance is a leap forward from previous models. As for the filter washing I don't always wash mine every 6 months, i can go longer and the filter is not that dirty. I think it depends on what your using the vac for and the area you live in. So the 3 months on the DC25 I could probably get away with 6 months!! DC18 The manufacturer's instructions for maintenance are generally based on average usage. For vacuums, I suspect that's 2 times a week. I would be very reluctant to make a general statement about circumventing the manual's guidance for the purpose of convenience especially from 4 times to 2 times in a 12 month period. Why? Sometimes you vacuum more than 2 times per week. Or vacuum longer periods of time. Eyeballing a filter to determine if it is clean/dirty is a very primitive means of knowing if it is. Why? By the time the dust and dirt accumulates on the filter surface for the eye to see, the filters' pores are already saturated and degraded. Heat from the motor's operation degrades the filter material/operation also. Failing to perform the filter maintenance as recommended by the user guide, causes the motor to run hotter than usual. Hotter running causes premature motor failure.
Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #234 Apr 4, 2008 1:07 pm |
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I don't understand why the DC25 has a 3 month filter cleaning guide but the DC18 which uses the same bin and cyclone setup and same watt motor has a 6 months filter cleaning guide. That is why I asked the question. I can understand the guide on filter cleaning on the DC24. I believe DIB meant Dyson sacified using the latest and most effective Root and Core Combined Technology on the DC24 and DC25 to improve the weight, i.e lighter in weight and use. Where as the new cyclone technology would have increased weight/size!! But it still doesn't answer the question about the DC25 filter cleaning, may be a call to the UK helpline may give some answers!? DC18 You might learn if you ask that dyson plans to revise all the filter maintenance timeframes on its models, including the DC17 and DC18, to 3 months. Carmine D.
The pre-filter on Dyson's clog over time. Since Hoover sued Dyson and Oreck is currently suing Dyson over his "No Clogging" and/or "No Loss of Suction" claim etc., it has been interesting to watch and see how Dyson comes out. "No Clogging" has been dropped from Dyson's marketing since the Hoover/Dyson settlement. And for months following (Dyson's presented on HSN) there seemed a noticeable lack of mention or hesitancy saying "No Loss of Suction" from "Dyson Dave" and the HSN hosts, until recently and today. Today on HSN, the DC17 is being marketed as "No Loss of Suction" machine, and “The pre-filter needs to be cleaned every 6 months”. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #235 Apr 4, 2008 1:31 pm |
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DIB: I understand there is a new DC17 launched recently. Is this the one on HSN? Or is HSN selling the earlier model? Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #236 Apr 4, 2008 3:12 pm |
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DIB: I understand there is a new DC17 launched recently. Is this the one on HSN? Or is HSN selling the earlier model? Carmine D.
DIB:
I have my answer. It's the earlier model DC17 Absolute Animal on HSN for $449. Good price. But I've seen the latest dyson DC17 model available for $499 before discounts. It will be very difficult for dyson from a practical point of view and business perspective to keep two different systems of filter maintenance for its venue of models. My sense is that dyson will gradually phase out the 6 month filter cleaning routine for 3 months. It's worth asking dyson rather than second quessing HSN. I thoroughly and wholeheartedly agree with your premise that the reason for the change is directly related to the lawsuits. My sense is too that people can't remember to do the filter maintenance on 6 month intervals. [Do you remember to change your Fridge water filter every 6 months? Or does it creep back to 8-10 months?]. 3 months is easier for users to remember and follow. If it slips a tad, 5-6 months is much better than 12 months. I recall the last HSN dyson show I viewed [DC14 Animal], the filter maintenance was cited by Dyson Dave as 3, 4, 5, 6 months. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #240 Apr 4, 2008 5:50 pm |
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Re: pre-filter maintenance. My very old Fantom Fury has a filter change indicator. Stick one of these things on all Dyson uprights and canister vacuums and perhaps many problems will be solved. DIB
This message was modified Jun 9, 2008 by DysonInventsBig
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