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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 10:12 pm

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First upright from Miele

29 February 2008

This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.

 It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and

 “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest

 of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following

 numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use

 an upright model.

Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com

Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009

Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

This message was modified Mar 20, 2009 by Trilobite
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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #329   Mar 18, 2009 1:16 pm
CarmineD wrote:
I wonder if the Honorable Senator would say and expect the same [Japanese] standard for his peers in Congress?</p><p>Carmine D.

Now, now -- "Do as I say, not as I do."

Venson
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #330   Mar 18, 2009 1:35 pm
Hot flash!!! Per the NY Times online . . .

A.I.G. Chief Expected to Offer Bonus Compromise

Edward M. Liddy, the embattled chief of American International Group, is expected to tell a House committee that he will ask employees who received widely criticized bonuses last week to give half the money back.

Venson
catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #331   Mar 18, 2009 1:44 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Melanie:

It appears that you are becoming more disenchanted with your purchase:  i.e., Bag full indicator, short length of warranty, test model [read display and demo] and perhaps other issues that you have not mentioned.  Out of my own curiosity would you mind saying if you had the buy decision to make again, would it be the same?  Or different?  If the latter, what would you consider over yours?

Carmine D.


That's a tough question to answer.  I still love the functionality of my vacuum.  It still works great and I've gotten over my initial shock and anger at the cost of the bags.  However, the issues are definately turning me off from buying from Miele again.  I did so much research and tested so many models.  Perhaps the only other model I would really want is the Riccar Radiance.  I read so many reviews on those, but my Vac Shop does not carry them so I did not test one. 

Now that said, the Vac Shop does have the hose in now and I will take the S7 down Saturday for the repair and to see what they plan to do about the damage to my vacuum.  I may walk out a happy customer.  I hate to complain too much, but I know my frustration is showing.  So far I am not happy with the customer service from Miele and I am disappointed because I expected a more "Yes I understand and we will fix this right away" attitude.  What I have received is a very friendly "We'll fix this, but lets try these things first and it's okay if that doesn't work, it's not important anyway" attitude.  I think the attitude about the bag indicator is what really set my frustration off.  Even though it's not important to me, it should be to them.  They made the vacuum cleaner.  Maybe I should not have mentioned that it wasn't a big deal to me.  I really only threw it out there as a "While we're on the subject" item. 

I really wish these issues would have come up while I was receiving the surveys.  I did mention the bag indicator problem on the surveys.

I'll post again after my visit to the Vac Shop Saturday.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #332   Mar 18, 2009 2:28 pm
catlady wrote:
That's a tough question to answer.  I still love the functionality of my vacuum.  It still works great and I've gotten over my initial shock and anger at the cost of the bags.  However, the issues are definately turning me off from buying from Miele again.  I did so much research and tested so many models.  Perhaps the only other model I would really want is the Riccar Radiance.  I read so many reviews on those, but my Vac Shop does not carry them so I did not test one.  </p><p>Now that said, the Vac Shop does have the hose in now and I will take the S7 down Saturday for the repair and to see what they plan to do about the damage to my vacuum.  I may walk out a happy customer.  I hate to complain too much, but I know my frustration is showing.  So far I am not happy with the customer service from Miele and I am disappointed because I expected a more &quot;Yes I understand and we will fix this right away&quot; attitude.  What I have received is a very friendly &quot;We'll fix this, but lets try these things first and it's okay if that doesn't work, it's not important anyway&quot; attitude.  I think the attitude about the bag indicator is what really set my frustration off.  Even though it's not important to me, it should be to them.  They made the vacuum cleaner.  Maybe I should not have mentioned that it wasn't a big deal to me.  I really only threw it out there as a &quot;While we're on the subject&quot; item.  </p><p>I really wish these issues would have come up while I was receiving the surveys.  I did mention the bag indicator problem on the surveys.</p><p>I'll post again after my visit to the Vac Shop Saturday.

Hi Melanie,

I checked with Miele's customer service rep for vacuums. Hope you don't mind. I also made the rep aware that there been a bit of discussion about it online.

In any event, the complete back panel for your S7 "prototype" (that's them talking not me) is part number 07287060. (Its price was not passed on to me.) Per the Miele rep, the responsibility for the repair and/or replacement of the damaged back panel on your cleaner is upon the shop which did the damage. His name is Jim and his supervisor is Sally (the lady with the British accent).

When you take the cleaner back to the shop (to photograph it first is not a bad idea) present them with the part number for the back panel and let them know that you know that it can be replaced and that its up to them to take care of it. If it takes a day or two for them to do as they should -- try asking for a comparable HEPA loaner.

Best,

Venson
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #333   Mar 18, 2009 6:03 pm
Venson, well done.


Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #334   Mar 18, 2009 6:10 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Venson, well done.

Thank you DIB. I try.

Venson
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #335   Mar 18, 2009 6:12 pm
Carmine,

Catlady's Miele replacement hose is allowing the tools to slide off.

Customer service has become lip service when it come to really

doing anything that will take a few pennies from the stockholders'

coffers. I'm speaking in general terms here, because Miele does not

have stockholders, but still the end result thus far is the same as if they did.

The irony is the more money people have the more they think

they are entitled to, both in stock dividends, and in being exempt from

the customer service crisis that their incessant demends for ever higher

dividends has caused.  We now are in a financial crisis in this country that

I do not believe can be solved via financial formulae and machinations.

Figuring out how to encorage and allow people to buy more of the same

crap without paying for it is not going to help.  What do our lives mean,

and what are we worth besides our monetary earning power?

When we begin to live as if those questions matter, then we will begin

to see some real and meaningful financial stability emerge. We might even

see newly minted Hoover 700's proudly made in the USA once more.

Odd as it may sound, I think that would be an excellent sign that things were

being 'set to right' as it were.

Trebor

RAD1


Joined: Dec 6, 2008
Points: 17

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #336   Mar 18, 2009 6:34 pm
Couple things of note:
i.e. - airflow indicator (or dustbag change indicator)...This indicator is manually adjustable depending on what type of debris is being picked up. Ask you dealer and they should be able to adjust. It is very easy to do and should only require a screwdriver to adjust.

As for Miele customer and repair service...they have been nothing but extremely helpful and cooperative with me. I recently had to replace a wand on an almost 2 year old miele and they replaced it under warranty. Name other manufacturers that would do this. I find that totally refreshing in this day and age. I believe Miele is taking the stance that Melanie's initial S7 problem is the local dealer's fault, but if Miele has to step in and make it right, I am sure they will.
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #337   Mar 18, 2009 7:35 pm
Thank you Hardsell for your kind words.

What corporations simply refuse to grasp is that the window of opportunity to really sastisfy a customer is a small one. To have exchanged out Catlady's S7 at the get go would have totally satsified her, and left her singing the praises of Miele products and service. It is not more or less right to do it now, it just doesn't have the same impact as it would have. The optimum would have been for the shop to have called Miele service. Then they would have learned the correct hose would have to have been ordered AND the correct way to access the hose mount without damaging the machine. The faster the customer is satisifed the less it takes and the more praise the customer offers. The longer it takes, the more it takes, and the sour taste in the mouth never quite goes away. It would have been so simple and so easy to just swap out the vac and give Catlady an extra pack of bags.  Problem done, over, customer ecstatic. Nothing but good press. Now, she feels that is simply her just due for what she has had to endure. While you can point to the nickles and dimes saved on warranty and customer service, Excel has yet to place a column in their program for lost customer loyalty. People WANT TO BELIEVE that companies care about their needs, and not just about taking their money. Most people will give a company an opportunity to make something right, but they just want it done without weeping and gnashing of teeth.

"The customers and customer service people will bankrupt us!" is the cry. Not so. The clock is always ticking on the meter of monies taken in and given out. Every unresolved customer issue is outgoing cashflow PERIOD. Each moment the customer is inconvenienced gives them more time to feel aggrieved, and more time to talk to neighbors, family, friends, co-workers about how they are getting screwed and how the company doesn't give a darn about them and their problems. Everytime a customer calls in about an unresolved issue it robs the company of revenue generating minutes, from the person who answers the phone, to the person who tried to help them the last time and escalated the issue to a manager who isn't here that day, to the next manager who comes into the situation cold and needs to be brought up to speed, and so causes another delay in the resolution because this manager needs to get permission to solve the customer's problem. So instead of proactively managing the store, and preventing fires (figuratively speaking) before they occur, the entire focus of management is on putting out fires. I used to wonder why managers always seem to the south end of a northbound horse. I don't anymore.  People who are sincere and truly want to help can't stomach the corporate equine excrement. I have seen it all and lived it all from commission sales (both door-to-door and in-store), commission sales management, customer care in an inbound call center, retail hourly sales and hourly based customer service. All I can say is, "Life is not fair. No good deed goes unpunished. And, There is no lifeguard at the gene pool."  The inmates are running the asylum!

Trebor

mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #338   Mar 18, 2009 8:52 pm
And still as of today Miele, is still in DENIAL about thier  average machines where the parts and  service are on par with the local sears service center. Oh no we never heard of the wand and hose handle breakage, the electronic boards blowing up, the bags where the couploings come apart,the the hose ends where they go into the canisters becoming loose after 8 or 10 months time, the famous to the industry pros cordrell headaches, yeah emmer bessrer My @SS. I can have you talk to national miele parts distributors about the my ellie myth.

B.T.W with all of presuure lately put on them my Miele No wonder they tell them daily to stick it where the sun dont shine.

I  bet miele will try and shut me down again, Quess what i dont care.


regards

MOLE
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