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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 10:12 pm

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First upright from Miele

29 February 2008

This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.

 It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and

 “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest

 of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following

 numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use

 an upright model.

Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com

Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009

Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.

This message was modified Mar 20, 2009 by Trilobite
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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #323   Mar 18, 2009 10:04 am
Yeah the dealer “worked” with the lady, was patient, etc.  At the end of the day they did a hatchet job with the mind-numbing task of replacing a hose.  This parts swapper should take responsibility for their blunder.

DIB


Vernon


Joined: Jan 21, 2008
Points: 69

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #324   Mar 18, 2009 10:56 am
Trebor,

Very well put.  I couldn't agree with you more!  This is a classic example of  " if we do nothing, eventually the problem will go away, (the consumer just gives up from frustration)".  The company pats themselves on their backs for keeping warranty expenses in check.  So what if we have a disgruntled customer, can't please everyone, but, we saved a couple of hundred dollars on the bottom line.  Oh, aren't we smart managers!  Sick, Sick Sick.  Is everyone taking moral and ethical lessons from the big banks these days???

Vernon
catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #325   Mar 18, 2009 11:48 am
Sorry I haven't updated.  I've been really busy.

I called Miele on Friday and explained my frustration with the situation especially since vacuuming using the tools has become such a pain because they keep falling off.

The Miele Rep told me that he would make a note of that in my record and he also told me that the hose should be at my Vac Shop this week.  There was more to the call, but overall, I was dissatisfied with the response from the Miele Rep because I feel that my issue, especially with the damage is being ignored.  At this time I do not feel like I am being taken seriously and I will step up and speak with a higher up at Miele. 

Oh, I also told them that the red tab (bag full indicator?) does not work, never has.  However, I check the bag frequently because I fill them quickly so it was never an issue.  He told me that I shouldn't go by that indicator because it's just there mainly in case I get a clog in my hose and that I should always open the door to check the bag.  Even though it's never been a problem for me, I was really ticked off because once again, I felt blown off.

My Vac Shop left me a message yesterday that the hose is in and now I just have to find time to get the vaccuum to the shop.  They are usually closed by the time I get home from work.  I'm looking forward to taking the vacuum in and seeing how things are handled from here.  I'm going to try to get it there Saturday.  I have been thinking about what some of you have posted about just replacing the vacuum and the more I think about it, the more I think I would prefer a replacement at this time.  I was a test model and I have already had a couple of problems with this vacuum, plus the damage done by the Vac Shop.  It would make sense to replace the vacuum with a released (not sure if that's what the new ones are called) model.  I think I mentioned that the other issue I had was that the vacuum stopped going down all of the way to vacuum under furniture.  The Vac Shop easily fixed that by taking the vacuum apart and putting it back together.  They could not figure out what the problem actually was.  There's a short warranty on this vacuum (2 years I think) and I'm quickly approaching my 1 year already.  I'm thinking they need to expand the warranty on this model for sure.

Melanie 

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #326   Mar 18, 2009 12:42 pm
Hi Melanie:

It appears that you are becoming more disenchanted with your purchase:  i.e., Bag full indicator, short length of warranty, test model [read display and demo] and perhaps other issues that you have not mentioned.  Out of my own curiosity would you mind saying if you had the buy decision to make again, would it be the same?  Or different?  If the latter, what would you consider over yours?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #327   Mar 18, 2009 12:51 pm
Vernon wrote:
Trebor,

Is everyone taking moral and ethical lessons from the big banks these days???

Vernon



It's not the banks per se, it's those in charge.  Having and taking courses in ethics does not guarantee that the ethics will be employed.  All CPA's are required to take [and pass] ethics courses in order to practice their profession.  Some of these very persons are the ones in charge of the failed banks and financial institutions.  When I look at the alternative, putting Congress in charge of the ethics of the people at the banks, I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling either.  Taxpayers get the short end either way.

Let's not forget Bernie Madeoff.  The biggest crook in history.  Not affiliated with any bank, business [save his own] nor an accounting professional.  Just a normal run of the mill homo sapien with a crooked streak for his own gain at the expense of others.  Life in prison.  20 years of penance for 20 years of pay.

Carmine D.    

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #328   Mar 18, 2009 12:57 pm
Tho I must admit that I was intrigued with Senator Grassley's advice to the banking industry employees who made off with the huge taxpayer funded bonuses.  He said and I paraphrase:  Do what the Japanese do, come bow your heads, ask for forgiveness, then go commit suicide.  Perhaps the Japanese hold themselves to a higher ethical and moral standard than the USA business leaders.  I wonder if the Honorable Senator would say and expect the same [Japanese] standard for his peers in Congress?

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #329   Mar 18, 2009 1:16 pm
CarmineD wrote:
I wonder if the Honorable Senator would say and expect the same [Japanese] standard for his peers in Congress?</p><p>Carmine D.

Now, now -- "Do as I say, not as I do."

Venson
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #330   Mar 18, 2009 1:35 pm
Hot flash!!! Per the NY Times online . . .

A.I.G. Chief Expected to Offer Bonus Compromise

Edward M. Liddy, the embattled chief of American International Group, is expected to tell a House committee that he will ask employees who received widely criticized bonuses last week to give half the money back.

Venson
catlady


Joined: May 28, 2008
Points: 77

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #331   Mar 18, 2009 1:44 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Melanie:

It appears that you are becoming more disenchanted with your purchase:  i.e., Bag full indicator, short length of warranty, test model [read display and demo] and perhaps other issues that you have not mentioned.  Out of my own curiosity would you mind saying if you had the buy decision to make again, would it be the same?  Or different?  If the latter, what would you consider over yours?

Carmine D.


That's a tough question to answer.  I still love the functionality of my vacuum.  It still works great and I've gotten over my initial shock and anger at the cost of the bags.  However, the issues are definately turning me off from buying from Miele again.  I did so much research and tested so many models.  Perhaps the only other model I would really want is the Riccar Radiance.  I read so many reviews on those, but my Vac Shop does not carry them so I did not test one. 

Now that said, the Vac Shop does have the hose in now and I will take the S7 down Saturday for the repair and to see what they plan to do about the damage to my vacuum.  I may walk out a happy customer.  I hate to complain too much, but I know my frustration is showing.  So far I am not happy with the customer service from Miele and I am disappointed because I expected a more "Yes I understand and we will fix this right away" attitude.  What I have received is a very friendly "We'll fix this, but lets try these things first and it's okay if that doesn't work, it's not important anyway" attitude.  I think the attitude about the bag indicator is what really set my frustration off.  Even though it's not important to me, it should be to them.  They made the vacuum cleaner.  Maybe I should not have mentioned that it wasn't a big deal to me.  I really only threw it out there as a "While we're on the subject" item. 

I really wish these issues would have come up while I was receiving the surveys.  I did mention the bag indicator problem on the surveys.

I'll post again after my visit to the Vac Shop Saturday.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner
Reply #332   Mar 18, 2009 2:28 pm
catlady wrote:
That's a tough question to answer.  I still love the functionality of my vacuum.  It still works great and I've gotten over my initial shock and anger at the cost of the bags.  However, the issues are definately turning me off from buying from Miele again.  I did so much research and tested so many models.  Perhaps the only other model I would really want is the Riccar Radiance.  I read so many reviews on those, but my Vac Shop does not carry them so I did not test one.  </p><p>Now that said, the Vac Shop does have the hose in now and I will take the S7 down Saturday for the repair and to see what they plan to do about the damage to my vacuum.  I may walk out a happy customer.  I hate to complain too much, but I know my frustration is showing.  So far I am not happy with the customer service from Miele and I am disappointed because I expected a more &quot;Yes I understand and we will fix this right away&quot; attitude.  What I have received is a very friendly &quot;We'll fix this, but lets try these things first and it's okay if that doesn't work, it's not important anyway&quot; attitude.  I think the attitude about the bag indicator is what really set my frustration off.  Even though it's not important to me, it should be to them.  They made the vacuum cleaner.  Maybe I should not have mentioned that it wasn't a big deal to me.  I really only threw it out there as a &quot;While we're on the subject&quot; item.  </p><p>I really wish these issues would have come up while I was receiving the surveys.  I did mention the bag indicator problem on the surveys.</p><p>I'll post again after my visit to the Vac Shop Saturday.

Hi Melanie,

I checked with Miele's customer service rep for vacuums. Hope you don't mind. I also made the rep aware that there been a bit of discussion about it online.

In any event, the complete back panel for your S7 "prototype" (that's them talking not me) is part number 07287060. (Its price was not passed on to me.) Per the Miele rep, the responsibility for the repair and/or replacement of the damaged back panel on your cleaner is upon the shop which did the damage. His name is Jim and his supervisor is Sally (the lady with the British accent).

When you take the cleaner back to the shop (to photograph it first is not a bad idea) present them with the part number for the back panel and let them know that you know that it can be replaced and that its up to them to take care of it. If it takes a day or two for them to do as they should -- try asking for a comparable HEPA loaner.

Best,

Venson
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