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http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

Hi DIB,

This is probably the best picture of the DC24 by far...side-by-side with the DC15 which IMO seems to be the best comparison.  The DC24 must be quite small in reality, because we all know the DC15 isn't much bigger than the DC07.  I like how it retained the same basic design of the DC15, but simplified slightly and with a few improvements like the center suction channel in the nozzle.  Now I'm anxious to see a real-life shot of the DC25.

Hi Venson,

I thought the same thing, that it resembled a stick vac or one of those "mini-sweepers" in a way.  While it's a small machine it's definitely not a stick vac, and it does have tools (in fact you can see the brush peeking out in the high-res photo).  I can't imagine a Dyson without attachments or the ability to do above-floor cleaning, it would go directly against their marketing for one machine to do all.  The reason for the DC24, or so I heard, is to counter Oreck's negative ads about the Dyson.  It's 4 pounds heavier than the Oreck, but this one would give the added advantage of having the attachments right there, instead of having to grab a separate minicanister to do above-floor cleaning. 

-MH

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Yay, just naturally inquisitve! I saw the news article before you posted and discovered you could get the URL to the original images by clicking through from the slideshow Flash object.

Motorhead wrote:
To mention that by including 'the ball' it would feel lighter in use than a wheeled vac.

It also presents a handy size for above ground cleaning tasks :-

http://item.slide.com/r/1/0/i/Lsy64tPX2D_XWPc7bIAsJz0VZc8Qz7U2/

Motorhead wrote:

I don't know about negative ads by Oreck, but recently when I was in an Oreck Clean Home Center, a customer was performing a test of the DC14 [average retail is $450] vice the Oreck XL Deluxe [average retail is $400].   For doing the in-store test, the Oreck customer gets a free gift.  I understand that the test has become a staple of the Oreck in-store sales.  

I heard the Oreck employee mention that Orecks are certified by the Rug and Carpet Institute of America.   And dysons are not.  The customer appeared interested in this fact and the literature that Oreck uses in concert with the demo.  When asked why by the customer, I thought the Oreck employee had a very good neutral [not negative] answer.  He said, with the supervision of the Manager of the store standing by, that dysons were made primarily for European carpets [even the US dyson models] which are less difficult to clean because they are lower pile than the American rugs and carpets.  Then the employee turned the Oreck and dyson over so the employee could see the differences in the brush rolls. 

I left shortly after this so I don't know if the customer bought the Oreck and what the free gift was for doing the test.

Carmine D.

M00seUK wrote:

Just a remnder, the same argument was made by dyson with the DC15 which weighs 20 pounds.  When Consumer Reports tested the DC15 Ball, it countered the dyson claim by saying that the wrist, hand, elbow and arm weight of the DC15 was too heavy, awkward, and bulky for many of its testers.  Including the men.

Carmine D.

Motorhead wrote:

As a reminder, the Oreck compact canister is 5 pounds and has a HUGE dirt bag capacity.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

iMacDaddy

I meant to say a scaled down version for an Upright Dyson Model.  The bin diameters on the Dyson canisters usually are bigger than the uprights.  The cyclones on the DC22 are smaller but there is more of them at a guess about 15 compared to the current models of 8 cyclones (previous models UK - DC08/DC08TW had 12 small cyclones).  I agree the Core Separation could have been adapted for the DC24 (even the DC25!) but looking at the bin capacity the bin must be smaller than the DC18 Slim.  The Core Separation on a bin and cyclone setup that small would need the out cyclones making smaller.  Where as the DC22 has a bigger bin diameter.  I'm sure Dyson is already working on this.

DC18

HI DIB & M00seUK

Thanks for posting the links/pictures.  You can certainly see how small the DC24 is in comparison to the DC15.  Be nice to see the DC25 along side the DC24 and DC15. The ball looks bigger and more prominent in the DC24 compared to the DC15 probably due to the post motor filter being in the ball this time.  As I've said before the new model looks sleeker and the ball design simpler and the cleaning head slimmer in height.  Doesn't look heavy to pickup like the picture shows for using the tools for above floor cleaning.

I'm intrigued as to how the change over valve works on this model (and the DC25) as the dirt path has changed on this new model.   Although the same basic design from the DC15 has been kept!

DC18

If you look at the links/picture DIB & M00seUk has posted you will see some sort of tool on the DC24, plus the woman using it for above floor cleaning has some sort of crevice tool on the end of the wand.  From website pictures on catalogue sites etc.. I believe the DC24 (and maybe the DC25) comes with the smae combi tool as the DC18 Slim - crevice and dusting brush combined!  Also looking at the side profile looks like the stair tool (or upholsterty tool!) clips in at the bottom near the hose!  Could be wrong!

DC18

M00seUK wrote:
Here's the back view, showing the handle release and retracting wheels (that look similar to the Slim):

http://item.slide.com/r/1/0/i/XkiW38-T0j-PbmpnGeJWYB9GDVcZ14oJ/