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Motorhead


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New Dyson model...any info?
Original Message   Dec 19, 2007 5:53 pm
Apparently there's a new Dyson model that will be launched in February at the VDTA Convention.  I don't know any further specifics on whether or not it's going to be a canister or upright, but apparently all attendees of the show will be able to see it and place their orders.  I wonder if the $899 pricetag will be a detriment to sales, or are Americans willing to pay a premium for superior performance and space-age motor technology?

Has anyone else heard anything yet?  I'm curious to know what it is as I bought the DC21 right when it came out in March.  That and the DC17 are the only ones that impressed me so far, it will be interesting to see how this one is.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #8   Dec 31, 2007 5:21 pm
mole wrote:
Hi Motorhead,I agree with you,the canisters have not sold well at 500.00, what makes DYSON think they are going to sell at 900.00?.

  MOLE



Consumers and retalilers now have the added adverse impact of the credit crunch due to the US housing market going belly up.  Along with rising home and vehicle fuel costs, consumers are getting squeezed pretty hard in the pocket books.  High priced vacuums at big box retailers are a hard sell.  Maybe dyson will ameliorate the condition by offering financing to buyers of its vacuums on credit. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #9   Jan 4, 2008 7:07 pm
Dyson smartly and finally devised a simple way to help folks keep their Dyson's in its "No Loss of Suction" shape.  Go here.        DIB
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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #10   Jan 4, 2008 10:42 pm
Hi DIB,

It is a good offering on the part of Dyson though there's no way of knowing percentage-wise how many owners will be able to avail themselves of the reminder.

Euro-Pro had a subscription service of sorts a few years back.  They sent out replacement filters "x" times per year after you paid an up-front fee.

Best,

Venson

PS -- I accept this as Dyson's admission that "no suction loss" requires a little effort to maintan.  No shame in that.  Rainbow got around to finally admitting that it's dust capture hype might not have been all they'd touted with the addition of a HEPA filter.

Vacuuman


The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #11   Jan 5, 2008 2:01 am
Venson wrote:

PS -- I accept this as Dyson's admission that "no suction loss" requires a little effort to maintan.  No shame in that.  Rainbow got around to finally admitting that it's dust capture hype might not have been all they'd touted with the addition of a HEPA filter.



People aren't taking these claims the right way.  I have seen several people take "no loss of suction" as "I can suck up whatever I want and I wont clog it".  They seem to think that a twig jammed in the U bend and everywhere else packed with dried leaves should be a warranty repair.  Warranties cover defective product, not defective user...
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CarmineD


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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #12   Jan 5, 2008 7:09 am
Vacuuman wrote:
People aren't taking these claims the right way.  I have seen several people take "no loss of suction" as "I can suck up whatever I want and I wont clog it".  They seem to think that a twig jammed in the U bend and everywhere else packed with dried leaves should be a warranty repair.  Warranties cover defective product, not defective user...


This has always been true of some customers with vacuums under warranty.  For example, I recall a husband and wife coming into my store with a new HOOVER canister under warranty shortly after the Christmas holidays.  I was an authorized warranty HOOVER dealer and the vacuum was purchased at a big box retailer for a Christmas present.  When the suction stopped, the lady called the big box retailer which quickly directed her to my store.

She caught a nylon stocking in the hose.  Zero suction at the hose end.  Perfect suction at the machine.   I removed the hose end and stocking in front of them.  And was willing not to charge for the 10 minute repair.  But the husband expected the repair for free and was not appreciative of my willingness not to charge.  Not the wife.  When I "claimed" that a repair fee was allowable because the warranty didn't cover user fault [read stupidity] he still resisted.  And still claiming warranty privileges.  The wife was of a different mind than her husband and was willing and wanting to pay.  To avoid an argument between the two in my place of business, which I said out loud to the husband, I agreed that was the reason I would not charge.  I said a few dollars is not worth a husband and wife quarrel so soon after Christmas.  The husband, by this time feeling guilty, quickly changed his mind and handed me a $5 bill which of course I took.  And I passed it along to my nephew after the couple went on their merry way.  The business lesson was worth much more than the $5.

Carmine D.

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mole


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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #13   Jan 5, 2008 9:38 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Dyson smartly and finally devised a simple way to help folks keep their Dyson's in its "No Loss of Suction" shape.  Go here.        DIB



Do us a favor and dont start this nonsense AGAIN,

MOLE

DysonInventsBig


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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #14   Jan 5, 2008 4:28 pm
mole wrote:
Do us a favor and dont start this nonsense AGAIN,

MOLE


Mole, your actions and language speak for itself.  I, not you, know how to get folks from Google and onto my posts and Ads By Google.  Quit embarrassing yourself with your immaturity, get out of the way and let me make Abbysguide some money.        DIB

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DysonInventsBig


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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #15   Jan 5, 2008 5:37 pm
Vacuuman wrote:
People aren't taking these claims the right way.  I have seen several people take "no loss of suction" as "I can suck up whatever I want and I wont clog it".  They seem to think that a twig jammed in the U bend and everywhere else packed with dried leaves should be a warranty repair.  Warranties cover defective product, not defective user...



Vacuman,

I quite agree that Dyson's "no loss" messaging can and/or is confusing/misleading.  Dyson need only to better educate his customers.  There is no reason folks should not be fully aware their Dyson's can and do clog in time.  Apple computer is guilty of this too.  Steve Jobs used to sell folks on the iMacs small learning curve buy showing and highlighting tiny Apple manuals in their commercials versus a PC's.  Macs are super easy to use but that easy.        DIB

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DysonInventsBig


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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #16   Jan 5, 2008 6:15 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi DIB,

It is a good offering on the part of Dyson though there's no way of knowing percentage-wise how many owners will be able to avail themselves of the reminder.

Euro-Pro had a subscription service of sorts a few years back.  They sent out replacement filters "x" times per year after you paid an up-front fee.

Best,

Venson

PS -- I accept this as Dyson's admission that "no suction loss" requires a little effort to maintan.  No shame in that.  Rainbow got around to finally admitting that it's dust capture hype might not have been all they'd touted with the addition of a HEPA filter.


Venson,

I appreciated your response here today and have in the past, even when I disagree.        DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: New Dyson model...any info?
Reply #17   Jan 5, 2008 7:21 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Dyson smartly and finally devised a simple way to help folks keep their Dyson's in its "No Loss of Suction" shape.  Go here.        DIB



Here's a possible reason. 

Several months ago I was walking to my vehicle with my dear Wife after leaving the local COSTCO in N. Las Vegas.  As I approached my vehicle, a woman in her early to mid 30's was locking her car getting her infant son, and pushing a dyson DC14 COSTCO Exclusive in a store cart toward the direction of the store.   I believe this is the dyson model that sells for $469 at COSTCO.  I walked over to her and asked her what she was doing with the dyson.  She said she was returning it for a refund.  I pardoned myself for intruding and asked her why?  She said the suction wasn't as good as it was when it was new.  I asked her how old the dyson was?  She said a little more than a year old although from what I saw, it looked just slightly used.  I asked if she ever cleaned the filter(s)?  She said without hesitation, No, Never.  I said to her that the filter is probably clogged causing the fall off in suction.  I said the filter needs cleaning every 6 months or so according to the dyson instruction manual, which she had in her hand.  

At this point, I could see she was becoming annoyed.  She said emphatically that when she bought the dyson from COSTCO she was told that it never clogged and never loses suction.  She also told me that she was told it never needs maintenance and will not cost her anything over time and usage.   I asked her if she really believed those claims?  And she said to me I most certainly do and that's why I bought it for $500.  I told her she was lied to on each and every account.  Of course this probably only served to strengthen her resolve to return it.  And we said our good byes.

Carmine D.

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