Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

The Dyson DC22 canister was very recently introduced in Japan. I have heard that this will make it to the US market in order to expand their canister range.

Key Features:

-Root Cyclone with Core Separation
-Dyson Digital Motor
-Stowaway Design
-Motorhead
-Pre filter rinse once every seven years

HARDSELL wrote:

Well  Mr.Hardsell    we at the shop have used it in every way..full clean-ups ..clean-outs..spring cleaning....

repair room clean-ups 5 different people at various times during the day....months at a time...torture tests out back..

.dumping customers full bags onto various types of carpet and surfaces....pushed to the limit....and back....

weve done this on quite a few vacs over the years.....so our testing at the shop is fair ....and accurate...

how it performs and maintanence to keep it up to par determines if it gets ordered for the shop or not...

and at times they do come home with us after a full service claen-up.....thats one way its done.

NEXT- CONSUMER REPORTS

NEXT-the dyson owner ....what they like/dislike...changes?....gripes about the CSR....long hold times....to unanswered questions.

abt 1 in 5 like or love their dyson.....the rest dump it for another brand.

NEXT- other owner/operators...what they think....and why...what do their dyson customers have to say...ect.

shops make money in different ways...we service and maintain alot of comm. eqip..

..from carpet servcs to cleaning servcs...city and county contracts...in addition to sales -service-parts....to the public and city/county.

ORECK-as i have stated before...i do feel they are priced out of reach on the platinum series....no vacuum is worth $800..period.

orecks have stood the test of time and proven themselves to be one of the most reliable/durable vacuums ever made....well worth $200-400

never have i ever heard a customer complain about them....not to me anyway.

DYSON-if nobody wants them or wants to touch them...for whatever reason....its all freedom of choice...thats all that matters.  once a choice

is made based on all of the above info....as a whole....its then up to the owner of the shop to express his or her freedom of choice and opinion

on what they feel is the overall better vacuum for the store....best bang for the buck./reliability/durability.....branding....gen. feedback.

All in all it is what it is...freedom of choice/opinion....i dislike all bagless vacs ever made....you may not....i love RICCAR/PANASONIC .

..but i wont pay $500....im sure you could trash them all day long.....but i like what i like....and its your opinion...and i respect it....

.i once had a dyson given to me...a dc-7.....used it a couple months....not happy or impressed...so i gave it away..

.one mans trash is another mans treasure.  im sure most if not all of you have far more exp. than i.....ive learned from all of you

....even you HARDSELL....all our comments are  from OUR first hand exp....our opinions....but nomatter who you are or what you make

a $100 vacuum shouldnt last as long -outperform -an $800 vacuum for any reason.....and if a hoover tempo can take on a $800 dyson then its

dyson that needs to possibly rethink or  redo things..cause somethings not working....this goes for any $800 vacuum.....just my opinion. and

thank you for you time - patience and respect   MR.HARDSELL.

Hello "turtle1"

Thanks for the info.  Your commentary is much the same as I hear from

others in the vacuum biz. 

How long has the store/shop been in buisness?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

hi carmine

17 years.....5 years in new location....i work  for his son now....2yrs. his dad sold kirbys back in the day

but  set the store up with alot of side accounts to wheather any stoms that may come...[its raining]...

.he made sure we all had umbrellas....great man. i had the very short privlidge of working with him the last year he was there.

he now does missionary work and is gone alot...but once a year comes by to say hello.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hello turtle1:

It sounds like a very good vacuum business.  The owner, from what you say, sounds like a remarkable person

and professional business man.  Thanks for the information.

When I sold my buz in 1992, it was to a former KIRBY dealer.  He's still there in the same location I opened in 1949.

It's a town landmark and featured in the local newspapers.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

hi carmine

yes he is...but had to move , tornado realy did some damage to the little shopping center ....the whole place was unsafe

so the owner found new place.....the lot where it was is still empty and over grown to this day...wow 1949 carmine! .

..can i ask just how old are you?

retardturtle1 wrote:
Noah hired Carmine to clean the ark with a Bissel sweeper. 

HARDSELL wrote:

HAHAHA

thats a good one...Carmine will be entertained im sure.

Age is relative, especially in Las Vegas.  I'm as old as my tongue and a little bit older than my teeth.

Abraham was 99.  HIs wife Sarah was 90.  Thet had their son Isaac. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

hi carmine

to me your age is wisdom and exp.....you speak highly of a couple others also. ..so i pay attn when you guys post or respond...

...been to Vegas a couple times...loved it.....left broke.....flew in ...went back on g-hound bus due to way too good of a time....

lesson learned...what looks good to ya...may for sure not be good for ya.....

WRT dyson's DDM DC22, James MUST guarantee the dust blow by after the cyclones and after the pre-motor filter as

a zero tolerance level/close to it.  It's not unreasonable for James to be accountable to these numbers.  Premium

bagged vacuum makers/products do so as routine course of business.  Why shouldn't bagless where the blow by

is even more critical and DDM where its even more relevant. 

The guarantee MUST come from an independent third party industry source and not dyson's own lab's/certifications.

All the rest is just words.  The DDM is SUPER sensitive to dirt and dust which if it blows by the separators and pre

motor filters will choke the motor's operation and render it ineffective in very in short order.  Note the pristine

factory/environment conditions in which the motors are built.  Virtually no manual intervention to introduce impurities. 

Not true with the typical carbon brush motors which can withstand huge amounts of dirt and dust and keep on going

and going.   James can make all the outlandish filter cleaning claims he wants.  Customers won't buy it.   Certify the

blow by dirt levels at zero tolerance by an independent industry source and James got something to brag about for the

$800 beanies.  Otherwise, it's more of the same dyson sugar coated bull shine to titilate the dyson cult

followers and get them to part with their money. 

Carmine D.