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Axis
Joined: Dec 25, 2012
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Ressurecting a sleeping beauty
Original Message Dec 25, 2012 10:04 am |
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Got a problem. Pulled the trusty I think 43 year old Ariens snowblower (with it's second engine, a Tecumseh HSK70 with maybe 20 hours on it) out of it's covered outdoor storage space. Wanted to look at the belt, grease it and lubricate what I knew earlier was a sticking shift bar (the shaft inside the case gets smeared every few years), so started it up to take it the the basement hatch. It ran for a minute - just long enough to get there, then started running rough, then backfired through the muffler, and now I can't even start it.
Took apart the carb to check the flow and needle, found a clean fuel bowl but clayish colored fine particles in the gas. Drained some through the inlet (float valve thing) and it was full of junk settling like an almost solid thin layer in the bottom of my container. Then I'm thinking - didn't run it last year or drain it so the fuel was in there at least two years. I can't remember the last time I filled the portable can so maybe the gas is three or maybe even four years old. I probed the tiny hole in the needle adjuster and blew it dry. And still couldn't start it, but it sputtered once.
Will be draining and replacing the gas (flushing some fresh through the line and what to do with the old?) and clean the carb in place best I can with spray. The spark plug is aged but has at most a few hours on it. Thoughts on what else to do?
This message was modified Dec 25, 2012 by Axis
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Axis
Joined: Dec 25, 2012
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Re: Ressurecting a sleeping beauty
Reply #4 Dec 26, 2012 3:32 pm |
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Just got brave and removed the carb. Took some photos beforehand and it wasn't nearly as intimidating as it looks.
Although it looked fine, I cleaned the hole the mixture screw goes into. I removed the adjusting screw on the side of the carb (the black screw) that's about 1.5" long. I gently polished it, and sprayed cleaner in the hole after finding some grunge. It was exactly one revolution from gently bottoming - that's where I set it to. The fuel float looked fine, the valve seated and I wasn't able to blow air into the fuel inlet. I cleaned everything I saw, but I'll go back to it and search for the holes you describe in the sidewall of the carb throat as I didn't see them and will print your notes as a guide. I don't have what it takes to do the plugs, but can surely clean passageways.
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Axis
Joined: Dec 25, 2012
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Re: Ressurecting a sleeping beauty
Reply #5 Dec 26, 2012 4:10 pm |
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Based on your description, I might be assembled wrong. I saw the holes you mentioned on either side of the throat. One end had two (didn't see three) small ones and I was readily able to insert a bent strand of lamp cord wire in both. The one at the other end was larger, and could be readily probed. However, at the end of the mixture screw shaft, I have a tube within the assembly and nothing else is present for the bolt to meet against. Is that where the o ring and brass washer go? I'm attaching a link to a photo of the carb, and another to some leftover things I have on hand from an old rebuild kit I used only for the bowl gasket. Does the washer and o ring belong in the tube? There's nothing in it now. Be embarrassing if that's the only problem! http://i46.tinypic.com/1z1dxld.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2s61qus.jpg
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Axis
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Re: Ressurecting a sleeping beauty
Reply #7 Dec 26, 2012 5:10 pm |
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That parts set. It has the ring and gasket contacting the spring end that's not seen. And there's the gasket under the bowl that this tightens with. It's what's within the carb I'm questioning. Lots of diagrams like this: http://c.searspartsdirect.com/lis_png/PLDM/10043626-00001.png but they don't show what's between the end of the shaft the part you posted a picture of meets inside the carb. There's a tube that comes down within the threaded shaft. Does anything go between the part you posted a picture of and the tube that's within the threaded shaft it screws into? Thanks for the help.
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Axis
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Re: Ressurecting a sleeping beauty
Reply #10 Dec 26, 2012 6:08 pm |
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I'm confuzzled, please bear with me. I understand what you have posted, and the parts I have are as you describe. I'll try my question again to be clear, maybe I wasn't
In this link:
http://i46.tinypic.com/1z1dxld.jpg
in the center it shows the threads that the adjusting needle screw onto. In the center of those threads, there is a copper tube. Is anything missing in that hole.... should there be something (an o ring, washer, etc) between the tube and the threads?
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Axis
Joined: Dec 25, 2012
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Re: Ressurecting a sleeping beauty
Reply #11 Dec 26, 2012 6:09 pm |
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We posted at the same time. Thank you.
I have positioned the bowl as described, with the high part under the hinge.
Will try mounting it again tomorrow and see what happens. Appreciate your help.
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jrtrebor
Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
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Re: Ressurecting a sleeping beauty
Reply #13 Dec 26, 2012 6:27 pm |
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We posted at the same time. Thank you.
I have positioned the bowl as described, with the high part under the hinge.
Will try mounting it again tomorrow and see what happens. Appreciate your help. If you have the carb upside down with the bowl on it. You want the higher part of the bowl to be on the opposite side from the float hinge. Check out this link. It may be of some help as well. Tecumseh Carb.
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