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OmFlyer


Joined: Dec 3, 2011
Points: 11

John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Original Message   Dec 3, 2011 7:29 pm
Well I've spent a lot of time researching new blowers and came very close to bring home the JD 1330se today but got cold feet after reading about the slipping drive issues. I'd be very interested to hear any long term reviews on this unit as it appears unchanged since 2010. I do have a JD dealer 10 miles from home so prep and support should be better than a Lowes units? Also if there is another blower 30ish inches I should consider please let me know. I live in northern MI with a 150' drive see a fair amount of snow. I dont mind paying a premium for quality if it makes for years of trouble free operation. Thanks for your input
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bus708


Location: Maryland
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
Points: 321

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #5   Dec 4, 2011 8:40 am
Personally I would go with Ariens. They have A professional series 28", 32" and 36". If you have hills or gravel driveway they have a Pro Track Series . My current Ariens is 15 years old. ST 924. NEVER EVER LET ME DOWN. My belts I replaced once and my disk I replaced once in the 15 years service. I love them. If this thing ever dies on me i' m going with a Pro track 28. Many times I  have to blow close to 1000 Feet to get to the main road in 2 plus feet snow for the plows never come when we need them the most. The Pro series have auto steering- No triggers- with 14+ HP you can create your own snow storm.
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scopes01


Location: Montreal, CANADA
Joined: Nov 27, 2011
Points: 22

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #6   Dec 4, 2011 10:03 am

Hi there did you consider the new 2011-12 ARIENS ST28DLE (926038) Professional Series?...I just purchased this model machine for $ 1800.00 plus taxes in Canada and was also considering the John Deere 1330. For a couple of hundred dollars I would definitely consider the ARIENS ST28DLE Pro model. The ST28DLE Pro machine comes standard with a 420 cc Briggs & Stratton Polar Force engine having 21 ft./lbs. of torque and 14.39 HP . This engine also comes with a crankshaft balancer, cast iron cylinder sleeve and a forged crankshaft.  Personally, I would focus on the heavy duty points of a snow blower. The John Deere 1130 and 1330 machine have a short 3"-4" auger shaft sticking out from their gear box from each side. Then to compensate, a support bracket is installed on top of the gear case and screwed underneath the blower housing. This is to prevent the gearbox from twisting during action. The Pro 28,32 & 36 models machine from ARIENS have a full length auger shaft that goes from onside to another, eliminating the bracket support.  The Automatic Traction Control on the ARIENS….it is also a really good feature that is offered. There is a little resistance when you turn, but almost unnoticeable. If you stick to a smaller machine like a 28” housing, it is very easy to manoeuvre than a 36” machine. Also, I happened to take a closer look at the ATC system on the ARIENS Professional series. It is a really cool design. It is a Hilliard Auto-Lok differential system. It has two female internal splines bore on each side of the gear/differential assembly for the axle shaft to enter. Then the Auto-Lok acts like tension device to release the resistance when you turn and yet still have traction on both wheels. John Deere 1330SE model also offers the same feature under a different marketing name called the "Easy Steer"...and it is also a Hilliard product. However, weaker on the design side by John Deere...let me explain.  Now the way it is integrated into the snow machine's design is another issue all together. I have closely looked at both the ARIENS ST28DLE and JD 1130/1330SE Auto-Lok Differential from Hilliard. The main difference is that the ARIENS is using a spur gear around the Auto-Lok differential unit and a pinion to drive the axle for  both wheels. The spur gear surface is a little over 1" wide and the pinion even more. Perhaps, 1.250" of surface for the pinion. I would have to open and measure to get exact size, but it’s about that. This surface contact increases the stability, rigidity and decrease the vibration of the axle. John Deere doesn't have a spur gear around the Hilliard Auto-Lok unit and neither a pinion. They are using a sprocket and chain system to drive the axle. The sprocket is fitted unto the Auto-Lok and expected to give you that Easy Steer you looking for. Unfortunately, it will not perform as expected. You can read the other threads from the other members on this topic.  You will have this machine for a very long time an it worth spending an extra few bucks for a more reliable machine.  ARIENS is made right here in North America and service parts readily available anywhere. Good Luck and regards, Scopes01

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OmFlyer


Joined: Dec 3, 2011
Points: 11

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #7   Dec 4, 2011 10:18 am
I appreciate everyones input but just to clarify...Cost is a major consideration for me. I would put my budget max at 2k but if a sturdy/dependable/powerful machine could be had for $1500-$1700 well, why not? Dr Woof, I would love a Honda 928WAS in the garage but at twice the cost of the others I'm considering, this may be an investment for another time. Also, while not a huge concern, I'm 50+ miles from the nearest Honda dealer. BUT if the others I'm considering Simplicity/Deere/Snapper 30" are asking for trouble than NOW is the time for me to change directions. I'm entirely frustrated with all the clueless sales people I've talked to and the lack of real world reviews available. I maintain two residential properties(elderly neighbor) and we see an average snowfall of 80"+ in my area. Am I asking for trouble with the Deere 1330SE easy-steer Briggs machine?
OmFlyer


Joined: Dec 3, 2011
Points: 11

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #8   Dec 4, 2011 10:27 am
Scopes01, your input in the other threads has me considering the Pro 28. I'm not a fan of the chute controls or the ergonomics of the machine but could look past this in favor of pure functionality. Lately I've heard horror stories about the lousy prep on these machines from Home Depot so I had looked to other Manufactures.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #9   Dec 4, 2011 10:30 am
OmFlyer wrote:
Thanks, I did look very closely at the 30" Husqvarna and really wanted to like that machine but unfortunately the ergonomics were very uncomfortable for me. Levers seemed too high and no angled handles made it uncomfortable... I broke my collar bone recently so this is a consideration. The reason I was interested in the Simplicity/Deere 30" was the lower and angled levers seemed better in the dealer anyway? Please keep the suggestions coming.

I have the same observation on the Deere too.  The bucket was heavy to tip up, which is something you may want to make sure it doesn't make it more difficult to operate.
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #10   Dec 4, 2011 10:34 am
When Simplcity/Snapper/JD machines initially switched from Tecumseh over to B&S engines there was a problem with snow getting into the auger and wheel drive belt area causing the the machine to lose drive traction when snow would fall onto the engine.  They issued a fix for that problem years ago and should no longer be an issue.  I did my own fix by putting a rubber cushion between the engine and the belt cover.  No problems since. 

I've had the Simplicity for five seasons now and it's been an excellent machine.   It might not be the very best snow blower sold but for the money it was one of the best values.  High quality and low price is a very rare combination.  I'm talking about a 2005 model that was built in the Wisconsin plant.  I have no idea of how well built they are today.  Doesn't look like too much has changed.  Still has the heavy duty cast iron gear box and the chassis still seems as stout.   If the price is right, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.  Regardless of what you buy, grease the augers.  The amount of grease put in at the plant is sometimes minuscule.
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Dr_Woof


Don't blow into the wind, and don't eat yellow snow. WOOF!

Location: Saskatchewan
Joined: Dec 13, 2010
Points: 253

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #11   Dec 4, 2011 10:53 am
OmFlyer wrote:
I appreciate everyones input but just to clarify...Cost is a major consideration for me. I would put my budget max at 2k but if a sturdy/dependable/powerful machine could be had for $1500-$1700 well, why not? Dr Woof, I would love a Honda 928WAS in the garage but at twice the cost of the others I'm considering, this may be an investment for another time. Also, while not a huge concern, I'm 50+ miles from the nearest Honda dealer. BUT if the others I'm considering Simplicity/Deere/Snapper 30" are asking for trouble than NOW is the time for me to change directions. I'm entirely frustrated with all the clueless sales people I've talked to and the lack of real world reviews available. I maintain two residential properties(elderly neighbor) and we see an average snowfall of 80"+ in my area. Am I asking for trouble with the Deere 1330SE easy-steer Briggs machine?

I would say your first decision is to between a track or wheel type.  Tracks are hard to maneuver in storage, and a bit harder when blowing, but they really get thru the tough stuff and are good on inclined surfaces.  Then, decide on width.  Wide models of course take up more room and dont fit thru narrow spaces (like doors or between the car and the wall or narrow walks when blowing).  I have owned a 26 and a 28 inch and blower and never felt inclined to go larger.  And if you take partial cuts any advantage of width is lost.  As per my previous posts, I do not like the JD 1330 easy steer system but have no experience with others.  Excluding the Honda, I would be interested in looking at the Husqvarna and Ariens tracked blowers if I was looking for a new one.  Also, I find the hydro drive to be a definite plus, as well as adjustable scraper heigth.  The electric spout controls do make life easier, but only time will tell as to reliabilty.  Never had heated grips - just a frill I think and not a factor to affect the buying decision - get some good gloves if the new one doesnt have em.
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OmFlyer


Joined: Dec 3, 2011
Points: 11

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #12   Dec 4, 2011 11:31 am
Good questions; Pancake flat property and some tight storage maneuvering have me looking at wheeled blowers. I used an old 5hp - 26" Craftsman here for years which seemed to manage well 85% of the time. The 15% that it could not handle was wet snow and EOD. So regarding width, 26-30" seems right because I am maintaining two properties and would favor getting the job done a little quicker with some additional width. Dr Woof, I'm sorry if I missed your specific post, but what was your experience with the JD easy steer system or is your dislike based on design integration? Thanks again
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hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #13   Dec 4, 2011 11:47 am
OmFlyer wrote:
The 15% that it could not handle was wet snow and the driveway apron after the municipal plows.


EOD "end of driveway "
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OmFlyer


Joined: Dec 3, 2011
Points: 11

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #14   Dec 4, 2011 12:14 pm
Dr_Woof wrote:
I had the 1330 with easy steer and did not like it at all.  It was very difficult to keep in a straight line - kept veering from side to side and was a contunuous fight.  And when taking a partial cut it was almost impossible to keep it from strongly veering into the deep snow.


Found it! This is troubling... Has any else experienced this with the 1330? Could be a deal breaker.
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