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wrecked
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Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Original Message Jan 30, 2005 6:39 pm |
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I know this is neither the season nor the OPE that comes to mind in the dead of winter but I am looking for advice on the purchase of my first chainsaw. Giving the thoroughness of the reviews of snowblowers, I believe the same expertise is there for other OPE's such as chainsaws. Looking for a chainsaw for home use that includes managing timber on my property and maintaining an adequate supply of firewood. No problem splitting the wood with a wedge and sledge. I understand Stihl is outsatnding quality and friends recommend that I get a 20 inch bade. I would expect to use the saw 2-4 times/year. Beyond that I'm looking to see what other say with respect to size, manufactures, model numbers, etc. Thanks in advance. Chris
OPE:John Deere 180 w/plow,Toro 724, Redmax EB6200, Craftsman 2400 psi PW, 24 Grady w/Mariner 200 Offshore
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wrecked
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Re: Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Reply #14 Jan 31, 2005 9:16 pm |
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Thanks all for the advice. Its great to see the diverse esperience and the recommendations from the "school of hard knocks". I do want a saw that's easier to use and I'm concerned about the kickback and based on all the responses, an 18 inch bar should meet my needs. In addition, it seems that the anti vibe handle and overall balance are serious considerations. I'm somewhat surprised to hear that some of you have difficulty starting your saws. I imagine that the same fuel problems that plague snowblowers due to infrequent use also effects chainsaws. For two cyle oil I use Stihl that has preseervative incorporated into the mixture. If I plan to use the saw 2-4 times per year should I store it full or run it dry following each use? What other factors make chainsaws diffuicult to sart? I fully agree with not lending equipment and if one asks I offer to give that person a hand with the work. With chainsws you also have liability considerations because people do hurt themselves with the equipment more times than one would expect. Chris
OPE:John Deere 180 w/plow,Toro 724, Redmax EB6200, Craftsman 2400 psi PW, 24 Grady w/Mariner 200 Offshore
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terrapin24h
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Re: Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Reply #15 Feb 1, 2005 10:32 am |
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Moreso than liability concerns, people that aren't used to them (or don't pay for them) tend to be stupid with chainsaws. I wouldn't say my saw is hard to start per se, but if you don't follow the start procedure, it can get cranky. They do alot of fancy stuff to the saw engines today with turbo air cleaners, and pressure relief valves and such, and when you are talking about a cold engine, it starts to get absolutely critical that you have the perfect amount of gas and air ready to go. No kidding, over or under priming my saw by as little as 1 bulb push can (and does) make all the difference. I have never know chainsaws to be as easy starting as lawnmowers, snowblowers, powerwashers, string trimmers, etc.
--chris 2001 Homelite VacAttack Blower 2001 6hp Toro PPace 22" mower 2001 Ariens 824LE 2002 6hp 2400 PSI Excell Powerwasher 2004 18hp Craftsman 27375 42" mower 2004 42cc Craftsman 18" chainsaw
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wrecked
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Re: Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Reply #16 Feb 1, 2005 7:11 pm |
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Chris, Do you see the starting issue related to it being a two cycle engine as opposed to four or just the added complexity of the machinery? It appears to me to be the latter. My RedMax does start up quickly but it is sensitive to flooding if it is overprimed. How often do you use your saw and how is it stored between used? Using it a couple of times a year I can see myself draining iteach time but I do not know what is best. Chris
OPE:John Deere 180 w/plow,Toro 724, Redmax EB6200, Craftsman 2400 psi PW, 24 Grady w/Mariner 200 Offshore
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Dave___in___CT
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Re: Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Reply #19 Feb 2, 2005 6:15 pm |
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Solution...Self starting... No messy fuel mixing... No chain replacing... Dave...
Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.Henry Ford BCS Tractor & snowblower
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wrecked
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Re: Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Reply #20 Feb 2, 2005 6:56 pm |
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Cute, But much higher maintenance You can't leave alone in the garage for months on end...
This message was modified Feb 2, 2005 by wrecked
OPE:John Deere 180 w/plow,Toro 724, Redmax EB6200, Craftsman 2400 psi PW, 24 Grady w/Mariner 200 Offshore
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sawman
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Re: Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Reply #22 Feb 5, 2005 9:12 am |
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Hi gang this is my first post so be kind. Let me introduce myself, My name is Pat and I have been a OPE sales representative for 12 years in Atlantic Canada. First of all as far as the length of the bar is concerned they must grow pretty big trees where you guys are to need a 20" bar. That would mean you are cutting trees up to 40" in diameter. Remember you start with your notch and can then walk around the tree. Now the kickback issues, lets think about a pendulum, the more weight the longer it swings, well when a saw kick back it is very similar, kickback occurs when the top part of the tip comes on contact with the log, the chain grabs and the spinning chain "pushes" the bar upwards. Now with a smaller bar there is less weight and better chance to control kickback if it is not severe. The other thing to consider is that with a longer bar the balance of the saw is not right, making it harder to use, it is heavier, and will have less power to the chain due to longer length. Now as for the topic of priming, most new epa carbs will dump any excess fuel you primed right back into the fuel tank. That way there is not excess fuel to be burned and therefore less polution.
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MissSnowshoveler
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Re: Looking for advice - Chainsaws
Reply #23 Feb 5, 2005 9:37 am |
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Okay - so you are what I would call a typical homeowner. (Remembering that I work in a small engine repair shop and my main focus is chain saws) My first question to yu would be what do you intend to do. You've all ready answered that. My next question, how much will you be using the saw. You've answewred that. As soon as anyone says firewood - I steer them away from the smaller saws. Usually 50cc's and under. Firewood is the hardest thing a saw owner can do with a saw, therefore the smaller saws don't tend to far so well. Something starting at 50cc's nothing longer then an 18" bar is what I would recommend. Unless you are getting mammoth sized firewood or have large trees on your property. Now I do realize that we live in totally different areas. I do serve a lot of the men and women that work in the forestry industry around here and they choose different brands of saws for different reasons. So the brand that you choose should be researched well. I can go on about what's popular here for the work you want to do, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be popular where you are. For instance, there are a lot of firewood cutters here using the 359 Husqvarna, the RedMax G5000 and Shindaiwa 488. I haven't seen the Shindaiwa name listed here before (or if I did I forgot), but they are good saws. If you asked someone here about Echo or Poulan they'd look at you like you had horns. Different places - different faces type deal. That's just my $0.01 worth. Sherri
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