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gdoll


Joined: Nov 18, 2010
Points: 2

Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Original Message   Nov 18, 2010 3:41 pm
I live in Calgary - we get a moderate amount of snow, rarely more than 8 to 10inches at a time, usually in the 2-4" range. The issue here is snow drifts.  I live in a north facing house at the south end of a cul de sac and get drifts all the time on the bottom half of driveway.  My driveway is for a 3car garage - not super long (probably 25ft, but easily 40 ft wide. I have been reading lots about single stage throwers - i like the fact they clean to the pavement, but am concerned if they can throw the snow far enough or can chew through a foot deep snow drifts a few times a year.  The other option of course is the 2 stage throwers - they seem a bit big and I've read they don't get down to the pavement. I am also not the  most mechanically inclined individual in the world...

Help?? Any thoughts on what my best bets would be?  I need something that my wife would be comfortalbe using as well. Any comments are appreciated...

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Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #26   Nov 20, 2010 9:07 pm
NotMoneyGuy wrote:
I hope so. This will be my first winter with one.



Yeah a competant 2 stage will have no problem with a pile like that. My Toro ate into berms created by a plow from the guy who was doing our yard. That stuff was frozen pretty solid and my Toro just ate it and spat it out. Looks like the snow in the pic is light and fluffy. We rarely get nice snow like that. Our snow is generally wet and heavy and our EOD has a ton of salt in it. It looks like those are nice short residental driveways. My driveway is 220 feet long and pretty wide with a 50 foot L-section off of it. Our EOD is at least 30 feet long. I will have to measure it when the snow hits. Hard to see getting out if you don't clear it wide enough.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
JGtravelor


Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Points: 13

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #27   Jan 14, 2011 5:47 pm
There are two reasons to get a 2 stage snow blower. One is the width of the driveway and the other is when you get that heavy wet snow. Unless you want to blow the snow halfway and then have twice as much to blow to get it out into the yard a two stage is the only way to go. Wind as you mentioned could also effect how far a single stage blower is going to go. Whether or not the snow blower is going to get down to the pavement depends on how flat your pavement is and if the wheeled unit is using side skid plates then your not going to get the scoop to drag onto the pavement but the next sunny day shoulds take care of the rest. After John Deere, Ariens and snow king I finally bought the Honda HS928TA which runs on two tractor threads. The good points are: 3 step height control selected by a pedal, easy to start, no pressure plate and no shifting. The electrostatic drive works like a joy stick. You can go a slow as you want forward or backwards. Once you squeeze the auger handle down on the right, once you squeeze the left drive handle, you don't need to squeeze the right one any longer. It stay locked until you release the left side. No wheels or chains are required so you get much better traction to drive through the big drifts and the frozen sludge at the end of the driveway. The pedal height adjustment will allow you to scrape the driveway clean after the heavy snow have been removed. The tractor treads alows you to basically walk behind it basically following it, not pushing it. The tractor model works fantastic for longwide driveways. The engine is rock solid and easy to start. PS with the tractor treads you can drive right up a snow bank to transport it into a pickup truck.. You can't do that with wheeled snow blower.

The bad points with the tractor tread design is that it is obviously not as easy to turn around 180 degrees. It isn't bad with a short forward and short reverse action to turn it around, You'll get the hang of it once you stop trying to spin it like a wheeled snow blower.

The only other point is the price you have to pay for a quality, long lasting snow blower that doesn't have all the traction problems of those with tension and dirt accumulating on a pressure plate on the other systems. You can certainly buy a $1,500 snow blower that may work for one winter of 3-4 storms. Then budget the repair and service and possibly transportation charge every year for as long as you own the thing. I bought my Honda in Jan 2003 and it is as good as the day I bought it. I live in New Hampshire which gets some good storms.

You can save $500 by ordering a new blower in the early fall, How much over $2,800 you have to spend depends on the widths and light options which in your case you shouldn't need lights on a wide short driveway when you have garage lights.

PS The guy in front of me bought the same unit and returned the Craftsman snow blower he bought the week before. I love mine and it saves me about 2 hours on my huge driveway.

trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #28   Jan 14, 2011 7:19 pm
Jan 2003 and the wacky guy complaining about his Craftsman.  It was quite a scene and I'll never forget it.  What a small world.  I was standing behind you.  I remember the cracker Craftsman guy ranting about how his friction disk was useless and wanted his money back.  Can't blame him though for being dissatisfied but the commotion he caused was rediculous.  The place was jamed with people going out of the showroom door and around the block twice waiting to return their machines for crumny friction disks.  His commotion caused such a delay it wasn't fair to everyone waiting outside in the line.

How's the track working out way way up there New Hampshire?  It's so far north I can't see how people live up there with all the snow and high altitude.  Everytime I look at a map I have to crank my neck to look at New Hampshire as it's way up at the top of the map and even next to another country.  It's up so high I get a nose bleed just looking at it on a map.  I think the people up there are very tough to survive in the high altitudes of New Hampshire.  I suspect the interbreading of locals with the Canadians has gone a long way to strengthen the stock up there.  Truely a harty bunch.   

Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #29   Jan 15, 2011 12:24 am
NotMoneyGuy wrote:
I hope so. This will be my first winter with one.


2009 was my first year and it really is a blast! Nice pic you have there. Small driveways in your area, lots of snow tho. Your neighbors are going to want your help ....... a lot!

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #30   Jan 15, 2011 2:25 am
gdoll wrote:
Thanks for all the advice.  I went for the 24" 2-stage...ended up buying a Craftsman/MD with a 249cc B/S engine, 11.5 lbs of torque. Wish me luck!

I think that you made the right choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-AFIA56yo&feature=related
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #31   Jan 15, 2011 7:24 am
This video illustrates pros and cons of single and two-stage snowblowers. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-AFIA56yo&feature=related

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #32   Jan 15, 2011 8:41 am
MN_Runner wrote:
This video illustrates pros and cons of single and two-stage snowblowers. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-AFIA56yo&feature=related



That's definetly a skewed test. How about in actual condition of a residential property with sidewalks, walkways, and shorter driveways. Homeowners dont have huge commercial parking lots. All that was shown was cons of single stage versus pros of 2 stage. The price comparison wasn't fair , high end single versus low end 2 stage.
tkrotchko


Location: Maryland
Joined: Feb 9, 2010
Points: 143

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #33   Jan 15, 2011 9:04 am
aa335 wrote:
That's definetly a skewed test. How about in actual condition of a residential property with sidewalks, walkways, and shorter driveways. Homeowners dont have huge commercial parking lots. All that was shown was cons of single stage versus pros of 2 stage. The price comparison wasn't fair , high end single versus low end 2 stage.


Its absolutely a skewed test. However, my observation last year with my tracked MTD and the neighbor's toro single stagers last year in deep snow: The single stage is fine as long as the snow doesn't get too high. That means in practice for large storms you'll go out several times. This is not a criticism, simply an observation. I was impressed by the single stage toro, and I could see having one in places where it might be tight to take the Honda 1132. I have a large area to cover and a single stage isn't for me, but for most suburanites and city dwellers around me, its probably the right choice. For me in the country with a long road, the single stage is just outmatched with the conditions I get.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #34   Jan 15, 2011 9:11 am
Most people don't own four snowblowers or even more than one.  For me, I just prefere owning one snowblower so a two-stage is the best option given my situation.  When the snow is light and dry (i.e., 1-2"), a shovel is very effective and quick.  I use my blower for EOD or when snow is higher than 3". 
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #35   Jan 15, 2011 9:11 am
I would accept a single stage blower if someone wants to give me one.
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