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Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Original Message   Dec 12, 2009 4:31 pm
Has anyone used the little Toro Power Clear 180 yet?  It has the 87 cc engine 4 cycle engine on it. 
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Waterloo


Joined: Dec 14, 2009
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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #18   Jan 9, 2010 9:25 am
Well, we finally had some snowfall here in Grass Lake MI, around 6 inches. I bought the little Toro to clear my deck and walks, and I must say that I am quite impressed. It is the perfect little machine for the job, light weight, so it is easy to get up the stairs and small enough to get into the corners. As far as the electric start I opted to pull start, like was said, 2 primes and she started right up in two pulls, but it was the first time I had used it. Once she was warm, a light pull and she started the first time. We had roughly six inches of snow during the day on Thursday and into the early morning. Not really wet but not dry either. I broke out the Toro at 10:30am Friday morning to clear my deck, temps were in the 20's.

She cleared the snow as expected, tracked straight, did not want to pull you left or right like its bigger brother two cycle does and trew the snow a good 15 feet if not more. I did bog her a bit in roughly 10 to 12 inches of snow. She did not stop working, but I could tell she was struggling, I backed off and she then plowed right through the little drift. All in all, I am very pleased with the purchase of this little guy, as it handles its intended duties with ease.

As far as the chute, it worked with ease, no issues there. Did not try the electric start, so no comments there. The choke, yes it looks a bit flimsy, so you guys that like to slam and bang things on a regular basis will need to be careful there. Overall construction seems solid, nothing I can see that would break or fall off in normal usage. I would highly recommend this unit if you need to clear a small area or walkways. I would think it would be well suited in say an older suburban 1950's type neighborhood or for light duty work around a larger home where you would not be able to use a two stage or say a 21" single stage. I paid $399 locally in Jackson MI, and yes, it's a keeper.
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aa335


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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #19   Jan 9, 2010 12:54 pm
Waterloo wrote:
The choke, yes it looks a bit flimsy, so you guys that like to slam and bang things on a regular basis will need to be careful there. Overall construction seems solid, nothing I can see that would break or fall off in normal usage.

The  flimsy lever that you see is an extension of the choke lever.  It is designed to flex and give and prevent damage to the choke lever itself. 

For the anti-plastic crowd, if this extension is broken, you can still actuate the choke lever.  If you break the choke lever, well, highly unlikely.  You're more likely to damage something more serious internally.
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Waterloo


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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #20   Jan 9, 2010 2:44 pm
aa335 wrote:
The  flimsy lever that you see is an extension of the choke lever.  It is designed to flex and give and prevent damage to the choke lever itself. 

For the anti-plastic crowd, if this extension is broken, you can still actuate the choke lever.  If you break the choke lever, well, highly unlikely.  You're more likely to damage something more serious internally.

Yes, I should have stated that fact regarding the choke, thank you for clarifying that. And I could see why Toro stuck that little wiggly piece of an extension on there, as I had a pair of winter shooters gloves/mittens on, and it was very easy to turn on and off with those gloves in mitten mode.
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aa335


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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #21   Jan 9, 2010 3:58 pm
Waterloo wrote:
Yes, I should have stated that fact regarding the choke, thank you for clarifying that. And I could see why Toro stuck that little wiggly piece of an extension on there, as I had a pair of winter shooters gloves/mittens on, and it was very easy to turn on and off with those gloves in mitten mode.

Yes, when I first saw the choke extension lever, I thought it was flimsy.  However, after a little bit of thought, it made sense.  Now, I don't remember how it was attached to the choke itself and how easy to replace it in case it breaks.  Hopefully it's a fastener-free smart snap fit.

Thanks for the writeup on the 180 performance.  The paddle is virtually the same as the 221/421, only scaled down.  If the 180 had the "blue" quick chute gizmo, I'd be getting one myself. 

Toro marketing department, are you listening?  Give me a 180 with quick chute and recoil start for $399 and 5 year GTS.  :)  While u're at it, integrate the deflector with the quick chute too.  :)
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Waterloo


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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #22   Jan 10, 2010 6:26 am
aa335 wrote:
Yes, when I first saw the choke extension lever, I thought it was flimsy.  However, after a little bit of thought, it made sense.  Now, I don't remember how it was attached to the choke itself and how easy to replace it in case it breaks.  Hopefully it's a fastener-free smart snap fit.

Thanks for the writeup on the 180 performance.  The paddle is virtually the same as the 221/421, only scaled down.  If the 180 had the "blue" quick chute gizmo, I'd be getting one myself. 

Toro marketing department, are you listening?  Give me a 180 with quick chute and recoil start for $399 and 5 year GTS.  :)  While u're at it, integrate the deflector with the quick chute too.  :)

Yes, the quick shoot would be nice on the 180 as it would have sped things up quite a bit for myself, especially in all of the nooks and crannies of my deck and walkways. The quick chute is something I would have paid extra for after using the one on my 221QE.

Also, it is kind of a back breaker turning the chute on the little Toro if you are tall, as the chute is right down below my knee level. And that blast of cold air up my jacket when bending over isn't much fun either. And no, my plumber side was not exposed.
aa335


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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #23   Jan 10, 2010 9:42 am
Waterloo wrote:
Yes, the quick shoot would be nice on the 180 as it would have sped things up quite a bit for myself, especially in all of the nooks and crannies of my deck and walkways. The quick chute is something I would have paid extra for after using the one on my 221QE.

Also, it is kind of a back breaker turning the chute on the little Toro if you are tall, as the chute is right down below my knee level. And that blast of cold air up my jacket when bending over isn't much fun either. And no, my plumber side was not exposed.

Well, since you got that side covered, I'm not going there.  

I might have to get both the 180 and 221Q.  All reviews of the 180 have been favorable.
jlge99


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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #24   Jan 21, 2010 9:25 pm
Bought the electric start model Dec 22, used only twice since then, today discovered it is leaking gasoline on my garage floor. Emailed Toro, they said to take it in to the dealer. Now I have to talk my wife into letting my use her minivan to haul a machine that is leaking gasoline, and take time out of my day to do it. Oh, and the shop said it will take a week to fix, let's hope it doesn't snow in the meantime.

Do not buy this machine. The external parts are cheap plastic, it doesn't plow down to the pavement, and oh yeah, it leaks gasoline after two uses. I bought a Toro on their reputation for quality. Big disappointment.

aa335


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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #25   Jan 22, 2010 2:27 pm
jlge99 wrote:
Bought the electric start model Dec 22, used only twice since then, today discovered it is leaking gasoline on my garage floor. Emailed Toro, they said to take it in to the dealer. Now I have to talk my wife into letting my use her minivan to haul a machine that is leaking gasoline, and take time out of my day to do it. Oh, and the shop said it will take a week to fix, let's hope it doesn't snow in the meantime.

Do not buy this machine. The external parts are cheap plastic, it doesn't plow down to the pavement, and oh yeah, it leaks gasoline after two uses. I bought a Toro on their reputation for quality. Big disappointment.


You must have a unit that was not put together right.  These little Toro's have been cleaning the snow right down to the pavement for the last 20 years or so, starting with the CR20 model with the same curved paddles.

External plastic parts seems to be as same quality as they have been last 5 years or so.  Better than the Powerlite that it replaces.

Welcome to the forum, sorry your first post had to be a negative review.  Hopefully the dealer can take care of the problems for you.
Catt


Location: Minnesota
Joined: Oct 16, 2009
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Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #26   Jan 22, 2010 2:43 pm
Mine has been working great.  BTW this little guy will fit in a trunk.  Just take out the rear chute bolt and tilt the chute flat.  The handles also fold down.  I'd just wrap it with a tarp and put it in the trunk for a ride to the dealer.
oldcrow


If it ain't broke, try harder

Location: Northern MI
Joined: Jan 15, 2008
Points: 63

Re: Toro Power Clear 180: Anybody use it yet?
Reply #27   Jan 23, 2010 1:54 pm
The little 180 sounds like a perfect fit for my brother-in-law. Wouldn't mind trying one out myself if I were in the market. What kind of prices or deals are you guys seeing right now? Are any of the big-box stores stocking these? BTW, my kinfolk live in SE Michigan, near Pontiac. Thanks in advance.
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