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Smitty


"He who dies with the most toys/tools wins!"

Location: Connecticut
Joined: Dec 28, 2002
Points: 237

Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Original Message   Jan 22, 2005 3:34 pm
Fueked up my machine and decided I better fire it up just to be on the safe side earlier today. Wouldn't start with rope pull or electric start.

Normally for a starting problem I would spray some instant start (ether or whatever it is) into the carb but of course no air cleaner on a snowblower. So, very, very carefully I heated up the carb with an electric blower. Sure enough, started right up!

My question is this, other than heating my garage, what can do to keep this from happening in the future? One thing I did was add some dry gas after this happened. Hopefully that will help

Ariens 824 Sno Thro, Toro 18" Gas Trimmer, Craftsman 3.5 HP 9" Edger/Trimmer, Echo SRM230 Trimmer/Brush Cutter, Toro 21" Recycler II Mower, Craftsman 8.5 HP Chipper/Shredder, Craftsman 25cc GAs Blower/Vac, Husky Y1000 Air Compressor, Homelite EZ ChainSaw, Husky Chain Saw
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MountainMan


Overpowered is Usually Adequate


Location: Connecticut
Joined: Feb 19, 2003
Points: 1564

Re: Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #1   Jan 22, 2005 3:39 pm
My snowblower was a little sluggish starting this AM, but my HONDA geneator was almost impossible. Had to be a touch of ice or somthing. I added extra stabilizer, and ran it till it was all warmed up. It restarted easier this afternoon, and its 5 degrees right now. Check to make sure the choke is working allright. Sounds like a fuel delivery problem.

My Ariens is under the Deck, somewhat exposed, but this eliminates the 100' walk to the shed in deep snow.

Ariens 1128PRO- Honda Generator_ Husky 480-257 Jonsered 2050Turbo- Shindiawa T2500 SCAG Mower -little wonder blower-Sears track blower-Coleman Generator- Bombadier ATV-Stihl HS-45 Etc-Etc-Etc
Vangellis


Dream more easy in the chair that really fits you.

Location: Factoryville, PA. (NE PA)
Joined: Oct 1, 2003
Points: 373

Re: Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #2   Jan 22, 2005 5:22 pm
I had a heck of a time today getting my machines prepped for tomorrow. Overnight low was minus 6. Daytime was about 10 degrees. I had too charge the tractor battery, but then it started right up. The blower was another story. I don't have an electric start on the old JD 726, but I think I'm gonna check E-bay later for one, after today. Pulled and pulled. It would just sputter a few times at best. I was back and forth with it in between doing other things. I was about ready to pack it in, then I thought I'd put a fresh spark plug in. Fired up on the 3 rd pull. What do I know.  LOL. Hopefully it starts good tomorrow. My wife said she will take some pics of me in action, so I should have them on here tomorrow.

                                                                                                                                  Kevin


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Dave___in___CT


Deliberate often...
...decide once...


Location: West-Central Connecticut
Joined: Sep 17, 2002
Points: 3159

Re: Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #3   Jan 22, 2005 5:57 pm
These engines should be made to start easier when cold/cold...

Good solution with the heat application Smitty !

Maybe adding an electric "heat pad" to the engine made for cars' oilpans would work...
Maybe too big...

Think there are heated oil dipsticks too... but just for cars/trucks...

How about an electric heating pad... have to keep it dry though !

Or a light bulb near the engine (under cover)...

Gotta be careful though !  No fires !

Think I'll invent a heated snowblower igloo !  

Any potential buyers ?  


Dave...

Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.
Henry Ford

   BCS Tractor & snowblower

Termy


Location: Washington
Joined: Oct 24, 2004
Points: 960

Re: Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #4   Jan 22, 2005 6:01 pm
In my experience, any engine, no matter what brand and model, has trouble starting in 0 degree or less weather. All engines need to be heated in order to start properly. To overcome this problem, please put your snowblower in an environment where its heated around 50 degrees at least. Trust me, that blower will start then. And I agree , good job properly heating the carberator!


Dave


Craftsman 88799

Location: Wisconsin
Joined: Sep 17, 2002
Points: 593

Re: Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #5   Jan 22, 2005 6:02 pm
Smitty, if you just fueled up your machine, that might be your problem. You should always store it at least half full. You might have water in the gas, and a frozen fuel line. I get fresh gas before each winter season and add Stabil to it. Also, don't use reformulated gas if possible. Your Ariens should start fine in cold weather. Good luck!

Dave

Dave___in___CT


Deliberate often...
...decide once...


Location: West-Central Connecticut
Joined: Sep 17, 2002
Points: 3159

Re: Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #6   Jan 22, 2005 6:05 pm
My snowblower always starts easily...

Even when left outside !


I send to to Florida for the Winter..!   


Dave,,,

Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.
Henry Ford

   BCS Tractor & snowblower

Smitty


"He who dies with the most toys/tools wins!"

Location: Connecticut
Joined: Dec 28, 2002
Points: 237

Re: Of all times, ARiens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #7   Jan 23, 2005 3:14 pm
Dave, Send ME to Florida and I'll send my sons over to shovel you out!

Ariens 824 Sno Thro, Toro 18" Gas Trimmer, Craftsman 3.5 HP 9" Edger/Trimmer, Echo SRM230 Trimmer/Brush Cutter, Toro 21" Recycler II Mower, Craftsman 8.5 HP Chipper/Shredder, Craftsman 25cc GAs Blower/Vac, Husky Y1000 Air Compressor, Homelite EZ ChainSaw, Husky Chain Saw
AJace


I have an Ariens 926 Pro because I like Orange



Location: Near Gettysburg
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Re: Of all times, Ariens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #8   Jan 23, 2005 3:38 pm
Hey, Dave__in__CT, I'll buy one of those.  How much will it subtract me? 

Ariens 926 DLE Professional; Toro S200; Craftsman LT1000, Echo ES-230;

Dave___in___CT


Deliberate often...
...decide once...


Location: West-Central Connecticut
Joined: Sep 17, 2002
Points: 3159

Re: Of all times, Ariens 824 wouldn't start!
Reply #9   Jan 23, 2005 5:04 pm
AJace wrote:
Hey, Dave__in__CT, I'll buy one of those.  How much will it subtract me? 



I dunno'...  still in the feasibility stage !  



Dave...

Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.
Henry Ford

   BCS Tractor & snowblower

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