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70chevrolet


Location: Mansfield, MA
Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 120

ariens V- belts
Original Message   Dec 10, 2005 7:53 pm
Is there a rhyme or reason to the size of the belt in the part number? I need a one inch bigger than the one I have for a custom application. Can I use a heavy duty automotive belt?
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70chevrolet


Location: Mansfield, MA
Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 120

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #8   Dec 14, 2005 3:16 pm
I would like noting more than to use a factory ariens belt, but nobody can give me a listing of the lengths that are availible. Th ariens belts have a 17/32 top and a 7/32 bottom where as replacement belts are listed as 1/2 inch...which means 16/32 at top and 9/32 at the bottom. so overall they differ by 1/8 in width. Length is another story. Ariens only offers a few lenghts that are listed. Some are listed with part numbers but no length.Replacement belts list belts in one inch increments. I have found a few replacement 1/2 inch belts that list oddball lengths. Scag offers a 1/2" x 40 1/2" and then greenshoes offers a snapper belt that is 1/2" x 41 3/4".. once I get the length right, then I can hassle ariens to try and find me a belt that is close enough to work. Hell, I'll even change the size of the idler pulley if I have to. But you never know, the aftermarket belt might work just as well when I get it on there. I'll keep the board posted as soon as I get some more info.
70chevrolet


Location: Mansfield, MA
Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 120

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #9   Dec 15, 2005 2:52 pm
just an FYI..I almost found out the hard way. Some manufacures measure the diameter of a v-belt on the inside and some do it on the outside. Ariens uses the OD. 
hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #10   Dec 15, 2005 7:17 pm
Most v belts measure the OD

Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #11   Dec 16, 2005 12:05 am
70chevrolet wrote:
just an FYI..I almost found out the hard way. Some manufacures measure the diameter of a v-belt on the inside and some do it on the outside. Ariens uses the OD. 

I'm not sure where the "OD" information is coming from; belt sizes are always spec'd by effective length which is a theoretical length at the pitch line. The measurment is calculated from equipment that uses standardized inspection pulleys and a specified weight for tension.

70chev, let me know what length your looking for and I'll let you know the closest 2 or 3 Ariens belts. Be sure to include your application and other requirements (cogged, raw edge, wrapped, cord construction, application, etc.).

Most off-the-shelf aftermarket belts are typically of very good construction, almost always Aramid cord, usually wrapped, and available in 1/2" effective legnth increments. They are general purpose and intended to work in as many applications as possible, hence they are versatile and strong. My guess is the thickness is spec'd thinner than a normal belt again due to versatility. A belt with a thick section will crack and fail quickly on a pulley that has a very small diameter.

Please do note that when using these types of belts that the clutch cover stock likely will reduce performance on a attachment/impeller drive application. Units with very high capacity and throwing distance will slip a clutch cover belt. Raw edge Aramid cord belts are best for attachment/impeller drives (you will hear a chirp when the clutch is engaged). Also, length is particularly critical for attachment/impeller drives to maintain full adjustment and also ensure the safety mechanisms work properly (brake, belt fingers, etc.). I would not advise using aftermarket belts on attachment/impeller drives for these reasons. Ariens' tolerance on these belts is typically .180" to .240" total tolerance on effective length.

PK

Majorxlr8n


Location: Freehold NJ
Joined: Aug 6, 2003
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Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #12   Dec 16, 2005 12:21 am
If you have a fixed idler pulley (non adjustable type) then a factory belt must be used. If you have an adjustable idler with ample adjustability, then an aftermarket belt should be ok. I use Gates OPE Green belts & Napa's - both of which I have had very good results with. They hold up well & provide excellent performance. Just my 2 pennies...

Marty

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Joined: Mar 5, 2004
Points: 751

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #13   Dec 16, 2005 6:50 am
newjerseybt wrote:
I thought v-belts NEVER rested on the inside diameter (bottom) track if they fit properly, else they would tend to slip.

You are correct about the inside diameter of the belt, I was actuallly reffering to the material inside of the outter diamter where the belt contacts the pulleys. In particular the "V" shaped sides. As they wear the belt gets looser but the length of the belt stays the same. The belt isn't stretching even though it is looser.
70chevrolet


Location: Mansfield, MA
Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 120

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #14   Dec 16, 2005 9:02 am
I just tried an Oregon Prenmium aramid cord belt (75-441) which is 1/2"x41".... It is almost a perfect match. It is just the slightest, almost not worth mentioning, tiny bit on the tight side. But if I get any wear what so ever, the idler pulley still has full adjustment. So I guess it's perfect. If anyone can match an Ariens belt to anywhere between 41" and  411/2" then I would be lookng pretty, not that I'm not already with my new machine and all. Snowman, I know you mentioned that you maybe had a listing for Ariens sizes.  I am so lucky...... I went from this:





TO THIS !







    I forget who said it but yes, the wheels do stick out past the auger. The chute maybe looks a bit stubby. All in time.....The only ariens ST1224 that I know of.!!
Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #15   Dec 16, 2005 11:48 am
07213200 is the only one that's close.

41.5" effective legnth, 4L section, raw edge, Aramid cord, neutral axis, 100% Chloroprene rubbers.

PK

70chevrolet


Location: Mansfield, MA
Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 120

Re: ariens V- belts
Reply #16   Dec 16, 2005 12:01 pm
Impressive....You have information that could not be ascertained by vising multiple authorized dealers and even by calling the Ariens Warranty sevrice department.... Thanks for that information.
solara


Location: Boston
Joined: Jun 16, 2004
Points: 252

better late than never
Reply #17   Jan 7, 2006 12:10 am

ARIENS BELTS LISTING

OEMPart NumberLengthWidth
ARIENS0120380053.5
ARIENS0120960050.5
ARIENS0172546935.5
ARIENS0720240029.5
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ARIENS0720440049.625
ARIENS0720450036.625
ARIENS0720460031.375
ARIENS0720470036.375
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ARIENS0720660033.5.375
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ARIENS0720700046.625
ARIENS0720710038.5
ARIENS0720720037.5
ARIENS0720730028.375
ARIENS0720750055.5
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ARIENS0720820029.375
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ARIENS0720840030.375
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ARIENS0720860040.5
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ARIENS0720880022.375
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ARIENS0721170030.5
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ARIENS0721270041.375
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ARIENS0721300039.5
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ARIENS0721610073.5
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ARIENS0721630064.5
ARIENS0721690065.5
ARIENS0721690064.5.5
ARIENS0721710032.125.375
ARIENS0721920039.5
ARIENS0722400028.375
ARIENS0722410027.375
ARIENS0722520037.375
ARIENS1720710038.5


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